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beefmaster cattle
Posted on 1/27/13 at 9:56 am
Posted on 1/27/13 at 9:56 am
anyone have experience with these? seems like a good breed for south louisiana.
a guy has some registered heifers not far from here for sale.
$800 each born in march 2012. that seems like a decent price.
a guy has some registered heifers not far from here for sale.
$800 each born in march 2012. that seems like a decent price.
This post was edited on 1/27/13 at 9:59 am
Posted on 1/27/13 at 10:17 am to diat150
I took Dairy Science probably 8 years ago. Don't remember ever hearing about that brand of cow. There were some that were able to tolerate current climates better than others. I suggest you do some research
Posted on 1/27/13 at 10:21 am to diat150
It's pretty much just another brahama cross. They do well around here, but you don't see many of them.
With prices the way they are I'd jump on it if you have the means to put some weight on em.
With prices the way they are I'd jump on it if you have the means to put some weight on em.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 10:59 am to diat150
My dad raised some in abbeville. They are a good breed very big, he never had any problems with them.
I am not a cattle expert though... More of a quail, rabbit, duck animal person.
I am not a cattle expert though... More of a quail, rabbit, duck animal person.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 11:06 am to diat150
It's a very good breed for southern states. The only knock I have on them is their sheer size. Takes more acreage/cow to sustain them and the price won't differ enough to recoup the cost/acre. In other words you won't get any more for them than an angus or brangus and the input cost is a little more for the beefmaster. All that aside that is a very good price that I would probably jump on. I would not buy a beefmaster bull to put on them for their first calves though.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 11:09 am to diat150
They say its a good breed around here.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 11:29 am to angus1838
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I would not buy a beefmaster bull to put on them for their first calves though.
so you think I should cross with a smaller breed the first time so they have less chance of having birth issues due to a big baby?
also, what about buying semen instead of a bull?
Posted on 1/27/13 at 11:30 am to diat150
I don't care for them. Too sheathy underneath. As for the heat tolerance, as long as you have SOME brahman influence you're okay.
We had Simbrahs and the ones that were 5/8 3/8 had more heat tolerance than the ones that were just 1/4. The quarter's would stay in the shade longer on hot days while the five-eigths were out grazing.
Brangus is also a very good breed- though there is no ONE superior. "Tiger-stripes are very popular too. They're brafords Brahma-Herford cross.
We had Simbrahs and the ones that were 5/8 3/8 had more heat tolerance than the ones that were just 1/4. The quarter's would stay in the shade longer on hot days while the five-eigths were out grazing.
Brangus is also a very good breed- though there is no ONE superior. "Tiger-stripes are very popular too. They're brafords Brahma-Herford cross.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 11:34 am to diat150
I've know several people that have raised them and I have had a couple myself. They are a heavy muscled beautiful animal that are well suited to our climate but in my experience are more prone to prolapse. I also feel,as one of the above posters, that their big size makes them not as good as other smaller breeds in terms of expense to profit which is what it's all about.
This post was edited on 1/27/13 at 11:35 am
Posted on 1/27/13 at 11:34 am to diat150
quote:I sure wouldn't calve 'em off of rye grass.
so you think I should cross with a smaller breed the first time so they have less chance of having birth issues due to a big baby?
quote:We did this at first. I would artificially inseminate them. Very intensive management.
also, what about buying semen instead of a bull?
You have to watch them closely to catch them in "standing heat" then pop 'em 12 hours after. Cattle have strong homosexual tendencies and will mount one another. Often I'd wake up and they were still in standing heat so had to wait til afternoon.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 11:36 am to GO TIGERS GO
quote:Very true. The more they weigh the more they need to eat to maintain.
their big size makes them not as good as other smaller breeds in terms of expense to profit which is what it's all about.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 11:37 am to Geauxtiga
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Tiger-stripes
That is some high strung bitches! We had about 5 that we introduced to our herd and those bitches were CRAZY. Kept them for amount a year and we had to get rid of them. They broke every fence in sight! One was so crazy, the butcher actually can harvest it in the field because it was freaking impossible to get her in the trailer. And yeh, we had loader shoots...she was just a train wreck of a cow!
Posted on 1/27/13 at 11:38 am to Geauxtiga
My dad used to manage a 400 cow dairy. Every evening, we used to go watch for cows playing, "leap frog." I had no idea what he was really watching for. They looked like they were having so much fun.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 11:39 am to StinkDog12
quote:Yes they are hot. I never had any but many friends whose cattle I'd go help work did.
That is some high strung bitches!
Posted on 1/27/13 at 11:40 am to StinkDog12
so long story short, this would be the first cows that I purchase. would the beefmasters be good for someone just starting out? from what i understand the beefmasters are pretty docile.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 11:41 am to OldHickory
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My dad used to manage a 400 cow dairy. Every evening, we used to go watch for cows playing, "leap frog." I had no idea what he was really watching for. They looked like they were having so much fun.
A brahma holstein cross is, in my opinon, one of THE hottest when you pen them. By "hottest" I mean MEAN.
This post was edited on 1/27/13 at 11:42 am
Posted on 1/27/13 at 11:45 am to diat150
Everything really depends on the size of the operation. If you are looking at 20 heifers then I think AI is the way to go so that you dont have the expense of a bull. I would find a low birth weight brangus or angus for their first and then if I wanted to continue a registered herd go back to beefmaster. Is this going to be a hobby our a way to make a living?
Posted on 1/27/13 at 11:47 am to angus1838
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Everything really depends on the size of the operation. If you are looking at 20 heifers then I think AI is the way to go so that you dont have the expense of a bull. I would find a low birth weight brangus or angus for their first and then if I wanted to continue a registered herd go back to beefmaster. Is this going to be a hobby our a way to make a living?
small operation. 20 heifer max. Id like to make a few dollars on it, but definitely not a living.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 12:05 pm to diat150
Good eats. Dad had some and his friend raised em.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 12:14 pm to diat150
Then I would say AI because of the initial cost of a bull (around $2000) and the actual cost of keeping him a year(around $500). Like Geaxtiga said their is no one super breed above all others some just give you an advantage in the profit margin. I have a few different herds and brangus is outperforming almost all. I do have some tiger stripes and while a little spirited they are doing well too. I love to see peolple buying into the cattle industry cause our numbers are dwindling and we need more producers
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