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re: Gumbo terminology
Posted on 1/17/13 at 8:08 pm to wallowinit
Posted on 1/17/13 at 8:08 pm to wallowinit
I guess focusing on grammar means you give up on your okra argument?
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Posted on 1/17/13 at 8:13 pm to BengalBen
Thanks bengal you beat me to it
Posted on 1/17/13 at 8:13 pm to BengalBen
quote:
I guess focusing on grammar means you give up on your okra argument?
You guess wrong.
Okra is required to call it Gumbo. Period. Otherwise it's more akin to stew.
And I'll go along with "juice".
This post was edited on 1/17/13 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 1/17/13 at 8:19 pm to wallowinit
I just hope you are smothering your okra before putting in the gumbo b/c if not you have more problems then we think. LOL
Posted on 1/17/13 at 8:40 pm to rantfan
I have no problems with okra. I don't think I would even know how to make slimy okra. I've been making Gumbo for almost 40 years and I've had zero complaints.
The only time I've made stew instead of gumbo is when my wife's 90 year old grandmother needed to avoid the seeds in the okra so I made some stew for her and gumbo for the rest of us.
I always get rave reviews for whatever kind of gumbo I make. I think it's because I use a very simple recipe with all fresh ingredients and I start with a traditional roux that I can make really dark without burning. Of course I have my secret seasonings that I could tell you what they are and you still couldn't make it taste like mine.
The only time I've made stew instead of gumbo is when my wife's 90 year old grandmother needed to avoid the seeds in the okra so I made some stew for her and gumbo for the rest of us.
I always get rave reviews for whatever kind of gumbo I make. I think it's because I use a very simple recipe with all fresh ingredients and I start with a traditional roux that I can make really dark without burning. Of course I have my secret seasonings that I could tell you what they are and you still couldn't make it taste like mine.
Posted on 1/17/13 at 9:05 pm to BigMike15
Why the frick would you put okra in anything?? Its a nutrionless tasteless vegetable that if cooked long enough will produce a slimy substance and ruin your GUMBO!!! Folks, I'm coonass, I know. frick okra, you DO NOT need it to make a gumbo.
Posted on 1/17/13 at 9:08 pm to sweetbobber
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frick okra, you DO NOT need it to make a gumbo.
Yes. You do. Otherwise it's stew and there's nothing wrong with that. So get over it already.
Posted on 1/17/13 at 9:13 pm to wallowinit
My family was exiled from Nova Scotia. Trust me, okra is not a necessity for gumbo. Done. Next thread.
Posted on 1/17/13 at 9:16 pm to sweetbobber
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My family was exiled from Nova Scotia. Trust me, okra is not a necessity for gumbo.
That's just too funny on too many levels. 
Posted on 1/17/13 at 9:26 pm to wallowinit
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The word Gumbo is derived from the African word for Okra. So, how can you have a dish named for okra and not have okra as an ingredient? And if the okra makes it "slimy" you don't know what you're doing.
The final word is that if it doesn't contain okra, it's stew or whatever else you want to call it. It doesn't mean it's not an outstanding dish, it's just technically not "Gumbo". I don't care what anyone says.
bullshite, gumbo does not need okra to be gumbo, how does your argument hold up for hot Dogs, hamburgers
This post was edited on 1/17/13 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 1/17/13 at 9:30 pm to Tigerpaw123
Dogsham
quote:
how does your argument hold up for hot Dogs, hamburgers
Posted on 1/17/13 at 9:38 pm to wallowinit
quote:sassafras was readily available when Cajuns came here. It grows wild and is easily harvested. Okra didn't become common in the south until 1800 at earliest but even then it was alot easier (and cheaper) to grab a few leaves off a tree and grind them than it was to raise a crop.
Yes. You do. Otherwise it's stew and there's nothing wrong with that. So get over it already.
But yeah, you need okra for it to be called gumbo. Someone said "let's throw this random vegetable in that stew we make. Now we will call it gumbo"
And good job trolling
Posted on 1/17/13 at 11:05 pm to wallowinit
Very late to this (probably dead) thread......
"Gumbo" means many things to many people, and in a very passionate way.
Wallowinit is technically correct regarding the African roots of okra, gombo, gambo.
Like alot of you, I've made a million gumbos WITHOUT okra (and I really like okra), and there really is nothing to argue about here. We cook what we cook. We like what we like. We know what gumbo is. And it has evolved from it's "must-have-okra" status.
But please, please, please............keep the tomatoes out.
Thanks Tigerpaw
"Gumbo" means many things to many people, and in a very passionate way.
Wallowinit is technically correct regarding the African roots of okra, gombo, gambo.
Like alot of you, I've made a million gumbos WITHOUT okra (and I really like okra), and there really is nothing to argue about here. We cook what we cook. We like what we like. We know what gumbo is. And it has evolved from it's "must-have-okra" status.
But please, please, please............keep the tomatoes out.
Thanks Tigerpaw
Posted on 1/18/13 at 12:01 am to wallowinit
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wallowinit
Not sure if you could be a bigger douche
This post was edited on 1/18/13 at 12:03 am
Posted on 1/18/13 at 12:03 am to G Vice
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G Vice
Amen. /thread
Posted on 1/18/13 at 12:07 am to G Vice
So much fail in this thread, gumbo is derivative of west african culture, where they still make similar stews. Slaves were the first to cook the dish over here and leave the namesake "gumbo" for their word for okra.
Okra, file (sassafrass powder - choctaw "kombo" which i think holds much less value than the okra derivation), and a roux (french) are all thickening agents and a modern "gumbo" can be made from any and/or all.
Cajuns basically put all kind of random shite in a pot and cooked it and called it gumbo.
Call it what you will but as another poster stated, the original is from okra. I tell people "nice stew" if they dont use okra. Thats what Texans do, haha
Okra, file (sassafrass powder - choctaw "kombo" which i think holds much less value than the okra derivation), and a roux (french) are all thickening agents and a modern "gumbo" can be made from any and/or all.
Cajuns basically put all kind of random shite in a pot and cooked it and called it gumbo.
Call it what you will but as another poster stated, the original is from okra. I tell people "nice stew" if they dont use okra. Thats what Texans do, haha
Posted on 1/18/13 at 12:10 am to wallowinit
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Checkmate
Hello, Afreaux
Posted on 1/18/13 at 6:10 am to LSUZombie
The "fact" that the word gumbo is derived from the African word for okra is interesting, but it does not mean that a modern gumbo must have okra in it. Louisiana cooking is great because of the melding of cultural influences. Gumbo is an obvious example. The roux is French, file, if it's used is Native American, okra if it's used is African, andouille if it's used is Cajun.
Posted on 1/18/13 at 6:16 am to wallowinit
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wallowinit
Who gives a flying frick about your technicalities whether to call it gumbo or not? If I want to call a pot of okraless shite gumbo, who are you to tell me otherwise? Jesus Christ this is one hell of a troll thread.
This post was edited on 1/18/13 at 6:17 am
Posted on 1/18/13 at 6:50 am to wallowinit
Cajuns. Thrown out of France by the French for not kissin the kings arse, shipped off to the New World in one of the coldest environs of the world. When one of the many wars(see French and Indian) between France and England are settlled Cajuns are shipped down the eastern seaboard of America(take a look at the names in Maine and other New England states that are mispronounced) try the town of LaFrance South Carolina. So the Brits did thier number on our ancestors. Forty years later France having gotten possesion of Louisiana and Cajuns sold the property and inhabitants to TJ for a "war with England again".
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