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re: Did Louisville Once Again Expose the Elite SEC Defenses?
Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:00 am to FootballNostradamus
Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:00 am to FootballNostradamus
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I've said for a while that these SEC defenses were overrated and simply the product of mediocre QB play and offensive creativity. Now this isn't to say they're not good, they're very good. However, people making it out like there are 5-6 Steel Curtains in the SEC each year are absurd.
For some reason people always say Big 12 O are over rated because no one plays defense in the Big 12.
Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:13 am to FootballNostradamus
Been waiting for your reply to this.
If they were able to move with relative ease, why did they not score more points? Did they just decide to stop short of the goal line to make us look good?
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Again, nowhere did I try to insinuate that I believed LSU wasn't the superior team. However, if you think WVU wasn't able to move the ball on LSU with relative ease then I don't know what you were watching. You don't go over 500 yards of offense unless you're moving the ball. It's not possible.
If they were able to move with relative ease, why did they not score more points? Did they just decide to stop short of the goal line to make us look good?
Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:17 am to FootballNostradamus
What is this "once again" nonsense anyhow?
Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:52 am to LNCHBOX
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If they were able to move with relative ease, why did they not score more points? Did they just decide to stop short of the goal line to make us look good?
4 turnovers and good redzone defense by LSU.
Not trying to say WVU acted like LSU wasn't on the field, but if you don't think allowing 500 yards of offense means your opponent had a good night moving the ball then idk what to tell you.
Just for comparisons sake, the Saints prolific offense only topped 500 yards once this past season and that was in an Overtime game. To take it a step further, the Saints defense (which statistically is the worst in NFL history) didn't once allow as many yards (333) as LSU did in that game.
Again, nowhere am I trying to say the better team didn't win or that LSU's victory was a fluke or that LSU's defense last year was historically bad. However, if you don't think WVU moved the ball well on them, then I don't know what game you were watching, because it wasn't the one I was watching or the one on the stat sheet.
Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:54 am to FootballNostradamus
Louisville, Clemson, Johnny Football ol' Big 12 - new and instantly exposed - et all...showed that the SEC gets away with looking great against a lot of shitty quarterbacks.
Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:23 am to FootballNostradamus
I think A&M's Big 12 offense has exposed elite SEC defenses all season.
Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:37 am to Zamoro10
JFF got shutdown against us.
*in before A&M destroys UF if it's later in the season*
*in before A&M destroys UF if it's later in the season*
Posted on 1/4/13 at 12:18 pm to USMC Gators
Can't we all just agree that there are some good football teams all over the country, that when they are on top of their game, they are very hard to beat. Louisville looked good, and that tasted like vinegar.
Posted on 1/4/13 at 12:46 pm to FootballNostradamus
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Not trying to say WVU acted like LSU wasn't on the field, but if you don't think allowing 500 yards of offense means your opponent had a good night moving the ball then idk what to tell you.
Too bad the object of the game is to score points, not accumulate yards. We executed a terrific game plan against WVU. Its like you don't give us credit for forcing the turnovers.
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However, if you don't think WVU moved the ball well on them, then I don't know what game you were watching, because it wasn't the one I was watching or the one on the stat sheet.
Your name should be changed to football idiot. We absolutely dominated them and they couldn't score. Last I checked that's the point if the game. If you can't score, it doesn't matter if you have a 1000 yards. And props for comparing the Saints gaining 509 in the NFL to college. Dumbass.
Posted on 1/4/13 at 12:56 pm to go ta hell ole miss
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I think A&M's Big 12 offense has exposed elite SEC defenses all season.
Um LSU and UF beg to differ on that one. Not to mention not everyone in the Big 12 has JFF.
Posted on 1/4/13 at 1:16 pm to LNCHBOX
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Too bad the object of the game is to score points, not accumulate yards. We executed a terrific game plan against WVU. Its like you don't give us credit for forcing the turnovers.
And can you not recognize the connection between points and yards? Obviously you get "credit" for turnovers, but that doesn't mean they weren't moving the ball before them. SEC fans throughout this thread are saying how Louisville won because of "stupid turnovers" by Florida yet now you want to act like your defense was a Steel Curtain because of your turnovers? LSU's defense stiffened in the redzone and was extremely opportunistic in forcing turnovers. I said that, why can't you comprehend it?
You won because you were significantly better than WVU, had more playmakers than them at every level, and dominated special teams. It had nothing to do with any terrific gameplan.
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Your name should be changed to football idiot. We absolutely dominated them and they couldn't score. Last I checked that's the point if the game. If you can't score, it doesn't matter if you have a 1000 yards. And props for comparing the Saints gaining 509 in the NFL to college. Dumbass.
Lol, dominated? Giving up 21 points and over 500 yards of offense is dominating? You LSU fans sure have gotten used to what dominating under Miles feels like compared to under Saban.
Posted on 1/4/13 at 1:21 pm to FootballNostradamus
LSUs defense was not exposed. The offense was(actually it wasn't we already knew it was bad). The LSU defense was dominating Clemson for a while but when the LSU offense keeps going 3 and out and the defense is on the field for near 100 plays failure is the only option. It's like dropping Michael phelps into the middle of the Atlantic and saying "swim home!"
Posted on 1/4/13 at 1:33 pm to FootballNostradamus
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And can you not recognize the connection between points and yards?
so you're telling me you think 21 points is a good score for 500 yards of output? Because I don't, and most people would agree.
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but that doesn't mean they weren't moving the ball before them.
Its called a game plan. We gave up the underneath so as not to give up the big play. I seem to remember WVU having a pretty high scoring day in their bowl last year, so it looks like our plan worked.
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SEC fans throughout this thread are saying how Louisville won because of "stupid turnovers" by Florida yet now you want to act like your defense was a Steel Curtain because of your turnovers?
Yea tipped passes and forced fumbles are definitely the same kind of turnover, but I never brought that up.
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It had nothing to do with any terrific gameplan.
Once again, you're an idiot.
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Lol, dominated? Giving up 21 points and over 500 yards of offense is dominating? You LSU fans sure have gotten used to what dominating under Miles feels like compared to under Saban.
21 in their stadium looks a whole lot more dominating than 70 at a bowl, wouldn't you say?
This post was edited on 1/4/13 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 1/4/13 at 2:33 pm to LNCHBOX
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so you're telling me you think 21 points is a good score for 500 yards of output? Because I don't, and most people would agree.
21 isn't a good score because of the turnovers. How in the world aren't you comprehending this?
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Its called a game plan. We gave up the underneath so as not to give up the big play. I seem to remember WVU having a pretty high scoring day in their bowl last year, so it looks like our plan worked.
I seem to remember LSU having a dominant defense back in the day and not "giving up the underneath" to the tune of 500+ yards.
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Yea tipped passes and forced fumbles are definitely the same kind of turnover, but I never brought that up.
Now there are different type of turnovers? This is getting cute.
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21 in their stadium looks a whole lot more dominating than 70 at a bowl, wouldn't you say?
WVU treated Clemson like a $2 whore at a Mexican donkey show, what's that got to do with what we're talking about? Atleast WVU was able to take down Clemson unlike LSU.
Posted on 1/4/13 at 2:45 pm to FootballNostradamus
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21 isn't a good score because of the turnovers. How in the world aren't you comprehending this?
And how are you not getting our game plan was to get them to throw so much that we had those opportunities to force turnovers? If they were able to move at will against us as you claim, why could they not finish the job?
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I seem to remember LSU having a dominant defense back in the day and not "giving up the underneath" to the tune of 500+ yards.
And Geno Smith and co were definitely the opponents for those games... except that's not the case. WVU last year had a prolific offense, and we kept them out of the endzone better than most.
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Now there are different type of turnovers? This is getting cute.
In terms of sloppy turnovers versus forced turnovers, yes. In terms of the end result, no. Don't be stupid.
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WVU treated Clemson like a $2 whore at a Mexican donkey show, what's that got to do with what we're talking about? Atleast WVU was able to take down Clemson unlike LSU.
Yawn. Enjoy your opportunity to talk shite to us. Lord knows the opportunity barely comes around.
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