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re: Game of Thrones Re-Read/Re-Watch Project (Multiple Book Spoilers)
Posted on 9/17/12 at 3:10 pm to GonzoLeslie
Posted on 9/17/12 at 3:10 pm to GonzoLeslie
I just modified the reread schedule used on the Westeros.org site.
The funny thing is when I was getting suggestions for how much to read and when everyone pretty well agreed.
I don't mind redoing the schedule if everyone can agree on reading X amount of chapters per sitting. As I said in the other thread, I'm all up for suggestions. I'll just need time to rework it.
Sincerely,
At Least Functionally Retarded
The funny thing is when I was getting suggestions for how much to read and when everyone pretty well agreed.
I don't mind redoing the schedule if everyone can agree on reading X amount of chapters per sitting. As I said in the other thread, I'm all up for suggestions. I'll just need time to rework it.
Sincerely,
At Least Functionally Retarded
This post was edited on 9/17/12 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 9/17/12 at 3:15 pm to BluegrassBelle
The schedule is slow, but thats because you need to allow time for thorough discussion (and crackpot over-analysis) of each section and how it relates to past and future sections. It's not just about the rereading.
The threads will likely each evolve for days on here. Dont rush them.
The threads will likely each evolve for days on here. Dont rush them.
Posted on 9/17/12 at 3:35 pm to TigerRad
quote:
The schedule is slow, but thats because you need to allow time for thorough discussion (and crackpot over-analysis) of each section and how it relates to past and future sections. It's not just about the rereading.
The threads will likely each evolve for days on here. Dont rush them.
I agree with this. Plus keeping the sections short allows time to read something else at the same time.
Posted on 9/17/12 at 3:47 pm to MFn GIMP
I third the two posts above.
Your schedule is fine Belle. No worries.
I would rather have plenty of time to discuss, than not enough.
And your probably the smartest girl I've ever met..
...from Kentucky.
Your schedule is fine Belle. No worries.
I would rather have plenty of time to discuss, than not enough.
And your probably the smartest girl I've ever met..
...from Kentucky.
Posted on 9/17/12 at 4:08 pm to jrodLSUke
This is some nerdy arse shite.
I probably won't post in this thread or read it until I finish DwD later this month. I'll have to catchup on the reread.
I probably won't post in this thread or read it until I finish DwD later this month. I'll have to catchup on the reread.
Posted on 9/17/12 at 4:13 pm to rmc
I'm all for the long re-read. Again it's not like we need to hurry and finish before Winds comes out. Great organized theories and discussion will come from the slow schedule.
Posted on 9/17/12 at 4:43 pm to BluegrassBelle
Keep your schedule. I want to do this really bad, but I have a pile of other books I want to read. The long reread would allow me to work on those at the same time.
Posted on 9/17/12 at 4:53 pm to jrodLSUke
quote:
..from Kentucky.
Between your flattery and Wayne calling me a saint my ego may not longer be able to fit in this thread.
Posted on 9/17/12 at 5:01 pm to Josh Fenderman
quote:
Keep your schedule. I want to do this really bad, but I have a pile of other books I want to read. The long reread would allow me to work on those at the same time.
FWIW, my intention was also to accommodate those who are currently taking classes, working long hours, and etc. As well as those who may want to jump in after the first week or so.
I read really fast as well. Probably too fast for my own good, so I'm looking forward to the deliberate pace.
Since it seems the general consensus is to stick with the schedule let's do that. We can always pick things up if they're going too slow. The schedule isn't set in stone by any means.
Posted on 9/18/12 at 8:59 pm to BluegrassBelle
I have never read the books slowly. It will probably be good for me. I haven't posted in an ASOIAF thread in a while. This should be fun.
Posted on 9/18/12 at 11:00 pm to MediTiger
I'm starting a little early because I know some of you boys are night owls.
So we're discussing this week the first four chapters in GoT: Prologue, Bran I, Catelyn I, Daenerys I
Prologue Summary
Bran I Summary
Catelyn I Summary
Daenerys I Summary
Prologue: One of the questions I always have after reading this (fricking awesome opening BTW) is do the wights and Others bring the Winter or does the Winter bring the Others and the wights?
Prologue, P. 13
My next one question is can Sir Waymar Royce still be "alive" as a wight? We see at the end of the Prologue that he is killing Will. But you only get mention of him later on. And of course George RR Martin goes into great detail about his wardrobe in multiple places during the Prologue. Most specifically on p. 7:
Of course Martin could describe the texture of a pear for 5 pages so it could just be grasping. I just find it interesting that he's described as he is. I can't help but feel like we'll come across him later.
And of course for those who enjoy the show, I can't help but share the show's portrayal of the Prologue because it's what immediately drew me in.
LINK
So we're discussing this week the first four chapters in GoT: Prologue, Bran I, Catelyn I, Daenerys I
Prologue Summary
Bran I Summary
Catelyn I Summary
Daenerys I Summary
Prologue: One of the questions I always have after reading this (fricking awesome opening BTW) is do the wights and Others bring the Winter or does the Winter bring the Others and the wights?
Prologue, P. 13
quote:
Answer me! Why is it so cold?” It was cold. Shivering, Will clung more tightly to his perch. His face pressed hard against the trunk of the sentinel. He could feel the sweet, sticky sap on his cheek
My next one question is can Sir Waymar Royce still be "alive" as a wight? We see at the end of the Prologue that he is killing Will. But you only get mention of him later on. And of course George RR Martin goes into great detail about his wardrobe in multiple places during the Prologue. Most specifically on p. 7:
quote:
His cloak was his crowning glory; sable, thick and black and soft as sin
Of course Martin could describe the texture of a pear for 5 pages so it could just be grasping. I just find it interesting that he's described as he is. I can't help but feel like we'll come across him later.
And of course for those who enjoy the show, I can't help but share the show's portrayal of the Prologue because it's what immediately drew me in.
LINK
Posted on 9/18/12 at 11:09 pm to BluegrassBelle
I'm in the middle of ADwD and am enjoying it much more than AFfC. That was an absolute chore to get through.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 4:29 am to BluegrassBelle
quote:
Prologue: One of the questions I always have after reading this (fricking awesome opening BTW) is do the wights and Others bring the Winter or does the Winter bring the Others and the wights?
Chicken or the egg thing really, but I've always gone for the Others bringing the Winter. Just seemed like one of their weapons to me.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 6:59 am to auyushu
I see it the other way, there have been plenty of Winters with no mention of the Others. Maybe no one ventured North of the Wall in those winters, but I feel that the Others use Winter / cant come in the Summer, but they come with Winter, they dont bring winter with them.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 8:33 am to Chris4x4gill2
From the prologue I am definitely of the opinion that the Others are bringing the cold. I don't think it is so much a temperature thing as it is a darkness/absence of life type of result of their presence.
Bran I
I caught on something here from the children's encounter with the direwolves. Bran and John have immediate connections with them whereas no mention is made of Robb, Rickon, or the two girls. This was in response to
Theon drawing his sword to kill the pups, starting to Summer.
quote:
The little thing squirmed against him, as if it heard and understood. "No!" Brand cried out fiercly. "It's mine."
Summer is already reacting to Bran's emotions moments after coming into contact with him.
quote:
"Can't you hear it?" Bran could hear the wind in the trees, the clatter of their hooves on the ironwood planks, the whimpering of his hungry pup, but Jon was listening to something else.
Jon is the only one in the party who new Ghost was there. Not even Bran could sense him. So based off of this I came to two conclusions. Jon and Bran have the most power as far as Wargs go. All the children are specifically linked to their direwolves from the start. Each one was meant for a specific child, not just the albino Ghost.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 8:36 am to BluegrassBelle
It appears that the Others come down with the Winter. There attacks and appearances do appear to be very "seasonal".
I'm sure the appearance of the Others also drops the temperature from that of normal winter.
I'm sure the appearance of the Others also drops the temperature from that of normal winter.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 8:43 am to Mr. Wayne
Nothing really significant in the Catelynn I other than the mention of the weirwoods IMO. I was hoping for some mention of a feature of the weirwood in the godswood that would show that is where Bloodraven got his longbow, but no dice.
Daenerys I
I find it odd that Dany and Viserys remember Rhaegar in the Battle of the Trident as fighting for the woman he loved. The war was started because Bob's side thought Rhaegar stole Lyanna away and raped her. Why would two children, one who was not even born yet, remember it this way? My only guess is that Ser Willem Dary knew the truth of Rhaegar and Lyanna and told Viserys and Dany the story as they grew up.
Illyrio clearly doesn't think highly of Viserys from the beginning and IMO is antagonizing him from the start. I think this fits very nicely with an opinion from crackpot that he never intended Viserys to be king. And even that he set him up with the Dothraki because he knew he would not survive with his attitude. I'm still lost on what he intended for Dany though.
Last thing... When Dany is walking through Drogo's manse, there is mention of a mosaic depicting the Doom of Valyria. Yet we get no mention of what the damn thing is showing. Just thought that was kind of a dick thing for George to mention in the book that he doesn't spend 5 pages describing.
Daenerys I
I find it odd that Dany and Viserys remember Rhaegar in the Battle of the Trident as fighting for the woman he loved. The war was started because Bob's side thought Rhaegar stole Lyanna away and raped her. Why would two children, one who was not even born yet, remember it this way? My only guess is that Ser Willem Dary knew the truth of Rhaegar and Lyanna and told Viserys and Dany the story as they grew up.
Illyrio clearly doesn't think highly of Viserys from the beginning and IMO is antagonizing him from the start. I think this fits very nicely with an opinion from crackpot that he never intended Viserys to be king. And even that he set him up with the Dothraki because he knew he would not survive with his attitude. I'm still lost on what he intended for Dany though.
Last thing... When Dany is walking through Drogo's manse, there is mention of a mosaic depicting the Doom of Valyria. Yet we get no mention of what the damn thing is showing. Just thought that was kind of a dick thing for George to mention in the book that he doesn't spend 5 pages describing.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 9:32 am to Mr. Wayne
Hole-E wordbuilding, Martin.
It might be easier to discuss thinks not mentioned in ASOIAF in these opening chacpters:
Others
Mance
Rhaegar hearts Lyanna
The Seven
Wierwoods
The Wall
The Doom
Talk about information overload. Geez.
It might be easier to discuss thinks not mentioned in ASOIAF in these opening chacpters:
Others
Mance
Rhaegar hearts Lyanna
The Seven
Wierwoods
The Wall
The Doom
Talk about information overload. Geez.
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