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re: These Glorious United States of America vs. Jamaica (7 PM Central, ESPN2)
Posted on 9/11/12 at 11:26 pm to Jumbeauxlaya
Posted on 9/11/12 at 11:26 pm to Jumbeauxlaya
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I really can't take anything you say seriously after you didn't know who #1 was on our team.
WUT
Oh my god, I don't remember every single number of every team I follow instantly!
This post was edited on 9/11/12 at 11:27 pm
Posted on 9/11/12 at 11:48 pm to BobLoblaw
Thought Id share that the entire match i couldnt stop thinking about how much
looked like
looked like
Posted on 9/12/12 at 12:07 am to Friend of OBUDan
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Was this Dempsey's worst performance for the US? It might have been IMO.
This was the worst performance I can remember from dempsey. He was probably the worst man on the pitch today. His touch was terrible, he made bad passes, and checked back to the midfield only to be dispossessed of the ball, creating Jamaica's only opportunities in the first half. Hopefully he'll be back to full form by the time the last two ties roll around.
Posted on 9/12/12 at 12:10 am to inelishaitrust
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This was the worst performance I can remember from dempsey.
Spurs DNA
Posted on 9/12/12 at 12:16 am to Cam71090
My opinions:
'Dolo is still the biggest part of our defensive line. Everytime he is on the field. He brings it for the US. Best player for us in the World Cup. Still one of the best players on the team. For what he does. Once he is gone, I'll be incredibly sad. 2nd half he got a lil sloppy IMO, like everyone else. But still, The Mayor of Hannover
Bocanegra, this team misses him incredibly much on set pieces when he isn't in the lineup. With Boca in the line up our set pieces. He is even a scoring machine offensively on the set pieces. His leadership on the pitch shows.
Danny Williams FINALLY starts in his natural position in the mid. About time Klinnsman. He brought a hell of a lot more to the table.
I thought Jones and Zusi played pretty well. The Zusi-Dolo tandem seemed to work pretty well. They had some confusion from time to time but I can see why.
Edu. frick the stats. I don't care. I'm usually a semi-Edu supporter. But, his play the past two games = frickING TRASH.
Altidore. I think people are too harsh on him. In Jamaica. Messi couldn't score. There was no midfield. The midfield took the night off. All of them. The intended pass to Danny Williams on the right side. Is not Altidore's fault. Danny quit running after passing. The give and go was there but Danny gave up. The cheeky backheel, to Shea on the left wing. Similar story BUT Shea was really far away. I'm not sold Altidore should have done that, but I get the idea. Shea wasn't running there either. I do wish that Altidore would use his body more to shield against defenders. His game has turned a lot more finesse since he has been in Holland. Which is good, just neeed to shore some other things up.
Dempsey looked ok. Best player on the pitch, usually. Opposing teams know to key in on him. Jamaica played for the draw first half. Parked the bus. Second half he was tired. Understandable. Not the best I've seen but not the worst. Made a few bad passes. But what do you expect the dude has been training with youth squads. It happens.
Cameron and Fabian played solid games. We attacked more on the right than left. But they were pretty composed through the game, even tho Cameron's eyes = cocaine eyes and Boca told him to settle the frick down.
Gomez played pretty well. He is lucky his FK went in. He still didn't get that many shots in general. I think he needs to assert himself. However, Jamaica parked the bus the entire first half and the midfielders were taking outside the box shots. I get that. No worries.
'Dolo is still the biggest part of our defensive line. Everytime he is on the field. He brings it for the US. Best player for us in the World Cup. Still one of the best players on the team. For what he does. Once he is gone, I'll be incredibly sad. 2nd half he got a lil sloppy IMO, like everyone else. But still, The Mayor of Hannover
Bocanegra, this team misses him incredibly much on set pieces when he isn't in the lineup. With Boca in the line up our set pieces. He is even a scoring machine offensively on the set pieces. His leadership on the pitch shows.
Danny Williams FINALLY starts in his natural position in the mid. About time Klinnsman. He brought a hell of a lot more to the table.
I thought Jones and Zusi played pretty well. The Zusi-Dolo tandem seemed to work pretty well. They had some confusion from time to time but I can see why.
Edu. frick the stats. I don't care. I'm usually a semi-Edu supporter. But, his play the past two games = frickING TRASH.
Altidore. I think people are too harsh on him. In Jamaica. Messi couldn't score. There was no midfield. The midfield took the night off. All of them. The intended pass to Danny Williams on the right side. Is not Altidore's fault. Danny quit running after passing. The give and go was there but Danny gave up. The cheeky backheel, to Shea on the left wing. Similar story BUT Shea was really far away. I'm not sold Altidore should have done that, but I get the idea. Shea wasn't running there either. I do wish that Altidore would use his body more to shield against defenders. His game has turned a lot more finesse since he has been in Holland. Which is good, just neeed to shore some other things up.
Dempsey looked ok. Best player on the pitch, usually. Opposing teams know to key in on him. Jamaica played for the draw first half. Parked the bus. Second half he was tired. Understandable. Not the best I've seen but not the worst. Made a few bad passes. But what do you expect the dude has been training with youth squads. It happens.
Cameron and Fabian played solid games. We attacked more on the right than left. But they were pretty composed through the game, even tho Cameron's eyes = cocaine eyes and Boca told him to settle the frick down.
Gomez played pretty well. He is lucky his FK went in. He still didn't get that many shots in general. I think he needs to assert himself. However, Jamaica parked the bus the entire first half and the midfielders were taking outside the box shots. I get that. No worries.
This post was edited on 9/12/12 at 12:26 am
Posted on 9/12/12 at 12:27 am to thenry712
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Jozy was phenomenal under Bradley,
If Jozy's performances under Bradley were phenomenal then Charlie Adam is the best midfielder in the EPL.
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Altidore is not a great super-sub option because he needs time to feel out a game, and get his touches. He was invisible against Jamaica on Friday, because he couldn't get any service from our horrible midfield that night.
Boyd is on form and has shown that he can play very well as a sub. He has shown a willingness to track back, something Jozy has never shown. Boyd can play as a lone striker, something Jozy has not shown the ability to do in any of his caps for the US.
Posted on 9/12/12 at 12:31 am to TN Bhoy
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He has shown a willingness to track back, something Jozy has never shown. Boyd can play as a lone striker, something Jozy has not shown the ability to do in any of his caps for the US.
I thought he tracked back a good bit of the time for both games. Hell he had to since there was no midfield in Jamaica and he tracked backed a few times because he lost possession. Usually, playing a lone striker. You don't want him to track back too much. No?
Ill agree that Jozy hasn't shown good ability as a lone striker. He is young. To say Boyd is on more of a form than Jozy, isn't as true either. They have both have played pretty well to start the season off for their clubs.
ETA: i'll also say that I think that Jozy came in just to hold up play. Our tactics changed after we scored our goal. We didn't play aggressive at all. I'm aware that Jamaica started coming out of their shell to get their points back. But, nonetheless. I'd rather have Jozy hold up play than Boyd. Especially in that circumstance of trying to hold a 1-0 lead. You go with the more experienced player. IMO
This post was edited on 9/12/12 at 12:33 am
Posted on 9/12/12 at 12:32 am to UASports23
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To say Boyd is on more of a form than Jozy
Did I say that?
Posted on 9/12/12 at 12:40 am to TN Bhoy
It's late and im tired. I just thought you were making a case for Boyd to come in rather than Jozy.
I thought you were comparing the two and basically saying Boyd was in more form than Jozy. Which would be false. Jozy has shown that he can play striker just as good as anyone for the US. Granted, Boyd is younger and hasn't had the opportunity. However, Jozy has shown multiple times that he can play the position he led the US in qualifying with 6 goals. Last go around. If I'm not mistaking. The potential is there with both players. Either sub would have been fine, but like I said. I would have went with experience over inexperience in that situation.
I thought you were comparing the two and basically saying Boyd was in more form than Jozy. Which would be false. Jozy has shown that he can play striker just as good as anyone for the US. Granted, Boyd is younger and hasn't had the opportunity. However, Jozy has shown multiple times that he can play the position he led the US in qualifying with 6 goals. Last go around. If I'm not mistaking. The potential is there with both players. Either sub would have been fine, but like I said. I would have went with experience over inexperience in that situation.
This post was edited on 9/12/12 at 12:41 am
Posted on 9/12/12 at 12:55 am to UASports23
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I just thought you were making a case for Boyd to come in rather than Jozy.
I was, just not in the way you're thinking. A number of posters on here (Bho, thenry, FOBUD, etc.) have decided that whatever I post they are against, no matter what logic says. When thenry decided to defend Jozy against me by posting that Jozy wasn't good as a super-sub I decided to post reasons why Boyd should have come in instead.
Posted on 9/12/12 at 1:13 am to Jumbeauxlaya
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Oh my god, I don't remember every single number of every team I follow instantly!
Posted on 9/12/12 at 1:52 am to LSUSOBEAST1
I wasn't aware not memorizing numbers was so taboo, I guess I'll have to study up to gain approval of the board.
Posted on 9/12/12 at 1:59 am to TN Bhoy
FWIW, I felt like we'd have scored more than one today if Jozy had started.
Posted on 9/12/12 at 5:15 am to inelishaitrust
We need to push on after we score. We can't afford to just score and play it safe. We need to get used to using an attacking mentality. If we can't play football against the lesser teams in CONCACAF then we will struggle to do so when we player more talented teams. Last night we should have pushed on and scored another goal or two. We should work our killer instinct while we still have a chance.
Posted on 9/12/12 at 7:33 am to DB10_AFC
Stayed up late last night to watch this. Great win.
- Amazing what a non-redundant midfield can do for you. Zusi had the game of his life. Same with Williams as we finally found a way to put him at CDM. I thought he played great. Torres, who I pushed for to play, was probably the worst of the 4 out there but still didnt play badly.
- JONES DIDN'T GET A YELLOW
- Dolo's overlapping runs and attacking play with Zusi were extremely effective. Also made some nice recoveries on some Jamaican counters. Dolo was man of the match for me.
- Thought the back 4 played well again. Boca looked fresh and Cameron continues to improve. Johnson was quiet but effective. He needs to stop blasting shots from 25 out though. The people in row ZZ appreciate the souvenirs.
- Dempsey still looks off but hopefully his playing with Spurs will get him back to form. I was shocked he wasn't subbed off.
- Amazing what a non-redundant midfield can do for you. Zusi had the game of his life. Same with Williams as we finally found a way to put him at CDM. I thought he played great. Torres, who I pushed for to play, was probably the worst of the 4 out there but still didnt play badly.
- JONES DIDN'T GET A YELLOW
- Dolo's overlapping runs and attacking play with Zusi were extremely effective. Also made some nice recoveries on some Jamaican counters. Dolo was man of the match for me.
- Thought the back 4 played well again. Boca looked fresh and Cameron continues to improve. Johnson was quiet but effective. He needs to stop blasting shots from 25 out though. The people in row ZZ appreciate the souvenirs.
- Dempsey still looks off but hopefully his playing with Spurs will get him back to form. I was shocked he wasn't subbed off.
Posted on 9/12/12 at 8:24 am to Jumbeauxlaya
he's the fricking goalkeeper brah.
Posted on 9/12/12 at 8:30 am to PTBob
Wait, Jumbeaux didn't know that Timmy wore #1? Is that the issue?
Posted on 9/12/12 at 8:40 am to UASports23
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'Dolo is still the biggest part of our defensive line. Everytime he is on the field. He brings it for the US. Best player for us in the World Cup
I have felt for years that Dolo doesn't get the credit he deserves. He has been our best player (i.e. only consistent player) for many, many years. I agree it will be a sad day when he is no longer on the squad. IMO, our chances at winning matches decrease exponentially when he's not playing.
Posted on 9/12/12 at 9:04 am to WarSlamEagle
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Wait, Jumbeaux didn't know that Timmy wore #1? Is that the issue?
Yes, Ian Darke made a reference to #9 (Gomez) scoring on 9/11. Someone on here said now Shea (#11) should score. Jumbo then responded yes, and then whoever is #1.
Jumbo, here is some reference. I honestly can't believe you didn't know this, but here;
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1-Goalkeeper
2-Right full back (right side centre back)
3-Left full back (left side centre back)
4-Right half back (right side defensive midfield)
5-Centre half back (centre defensive midfield)
6-Left half back (left side defensive midfield)
7-Outside right (right winger)
8-Inside right (attacking midfield)
9-Centre forward
10-Inside left (attacking midfield)
11-Outside left (left winger)
Now this is not always the case, but this is how it started.
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