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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Posted on 3/11/13 at 6:07 pm to 19
Posted on 3/11/13 at 6:07 pm to 19
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This spying little shite, rejected by Cat and humiliated by her betrothed, got wind of the hush-hush R+J. He may have even intercepted a raven's letter, or just claimed to have. Knowing how close Brandon and Lyanna were, LF knew Brandon would fly off hell bent for King's Landing if he thought his sister was being held against her will, and the Mad King would have Brandon exiled to the Wall or worse for the accusations against Rhaegar, and the Crown, by proxy. Leaving Cat unwed and available again.
I don't think Littlefinger could have done this. He was like 14 during Robert's Rebellion. I just don't think he had the resources to do this.
Plus Lyanna was already betrothed, and Rhaegar already married. It wasn't up to them to marry each other.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 6:08 pm to OMLandshark
Also I'm curious what yall think of this crackpot theory: Tywin was also one of the orchestrators of the Purple Wedding. It would have rid him of Tyrion without kinslaying, and Joffrey as someone who would without question ruin the realm, and Sansa had outlived her usefulness after the events of the Red Wedding. He was also saying that Joffrey needed a "sharp lesson".
Perhaps that was part of the deal Littlefinger had to make, in that they wouldn't tolerate Margaery marrying someone like Joffrey, and Tywin had to agree and let it happen, although he was more than happy to let it happen. That would allow Tommen to rule, who could easily be controlled and actually turned into a good king. Plus his monstrous son would either be executed or at the Wall, never to be heard from again.
Perhaps that was part of the deal Littlefinger had to make, in that they wouldn't tolerate Margaery marrying someone like Joffrey, and Tywin had to agree and let it happen, although he was more than happy to let it happen. That would allow Tommen to rule, who could easily be controlled and actually turned into a good king. Plus his monstrous son would either be executed or at the Wall, never to be heard from again.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 7:08 pm to OMLandshark
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I don't think Littlefinger could have done this. He was like 14 during Robert's Rebellion. I just don't think he had the resources to do this. Plus Lyanna was already betrothed, and Rhaegar already married. It wasn't up to them to marry each other.
You really need to read up on some of the old R+L threads on Westeros...I assume too much is already known here, sometimes, so I'll share some detail -
Lyanna being betrothed was one of the reasons her and Rheagar snuck away...(many believe eloped, but that's not part of my theory)and many also believe the 'kidnapping' story was a cover - some even blaming it on Brandon to save shame on House Stark. There are mounds of evidence against her being taken against her will in any way, shape, or form.
As for Rhaegar being married:
Aegon I was a polygamist, and I'm quite sure that most of the assess to sit the Iron Throne weren't monogamous, or else the Blackfyre Pretenders never have existed. Given the long history of Targaryen obsession with "The Prophecy" Rhaegar taking a lover or even a wife in the pursuit of fulfilling it is not that much of a leap at all.
Having said that, What does R and L getting married have to do with anything I said about LF?
Do you know why Brandon Stark was able to get to KL with these accusations before word of this Kidnapping even made it to Winterfell?
Because he was at (or very near) Riverrun FOR HIS OWN betrothal when he found out. Who else was at Riverrun? A spurned LF with motive to have the wedding permanently postponed, as well as opportunity - he was still at Riverrun, having been fostered by Hoster Tully.
and LF being 14? too young to play the game?
Like Jaime being not only a knight, but appointed to the King's Guard at 15?
Or Rob Stark at 14 or 15 outsmarting Tywin Lannister at Whispering Wood and capturing Jaime in the process?
Pay attn to the books. Boys are considered men very, very early in Westeros.
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