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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Posted on 4/27/13 at 1:08 pm to Methuselah
Posted on 4/27/13 at 1:08 pm to Methuselah
6,000th post in this thread!!!
Agree 100%
Seeing Ned forced into killing Lady is really my most painful scene in the series.
It's just wrong on so many levels. Lost all respect for Robert in that scene. He should have count punted Cersei on the spot for even suggesting it. Joff had a little scratch on his arm. GTFO.
I posted this quote earlier in this thread :
"So he listened, and she told it all.....And when she was done, Eddard Stark sat dazed besides the table, the dagger in his hand. Bran's wolf had saved the boys life....What was it that Jon had said when they found the pups in the snow? Your children were meant to have these pups, my lord. And he had killed Sansa's.....If the gods had sent these wolves, what folly had he done?"
That last line strikes me as truly important, and a real tragedy. Ned's honor led him to carry out the king's order himself because he felt Lady was "of the North" and deserved better than "a butcher" like Payne, and that may have been the act that took him out of the gods' favor in his mind. Just frustrating. Lady did deserve better than Payne, and certainly so did Eddard Stark.
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The whole scene with the butchers boy and Sansa's wolf cast Cercsi as bad for me and I can't buy into any attempts to soften her in the later books. I still don't like to watch that early episode of the show for some reason. It pisses me off.
Agree 100%
Seeing Ned forced into killing Lady is really my most painful scene in the series.
It's just wrong on so many levels. Lost all respect for Robert in that scene. He should have count punted Cersei on the spot for even suggesting it. Joff had a little scratch on his arm. GTFO.
I posted this quote earlier in this thread :
"So he listened, and she told it all.....And when she was done, Eddard Stark sat dazed besides the table, the dagger in his hand. Bran's wolf had saved the boys life....What was it that Jon had said when they found the pups in the snow? Your children were meant to have these pups, my lord. And he had killed Sansa's.....If the gods had sent these wolves, what folly had he done?"
That last line strikes me as truly important, and a real tragedy. Ned's honor led him to carry out the king's order himself because he felt Lady was "of the North" and deserved better than "a butcher" like Payne, and that may have been the act that took him out of the gods' favor in his mind. Just frustrating. Lady did deserve better than Payne, and certainly so did Eddard Stark.
This post was edited on 4/27/13 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 4/27/13 at 2:07 pm to Tiger Voodoo
Technically, BlackleafBaller had the 6,000th post. You had the 6,000th reply.
Posted on 4/27/13 at 2:19 pm to Tiger Voodoo
The killing of Lady was the turning point for Ned, he was defeated.
The dire wolves were his kids too even though he probably didn't realize it at the time.
The dire wolves were his kids too even though he probably didn't realize it at the time.
This post was edited on 4/27/13 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 4/27/13 at 2:26 pm to PsychTiger
When you play the game of threads, you win or you die.
This post was edited on 4/27/13 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 4/27/13 at 4:10 pm to BlackleafBaller
Melisandre see's a "Girl in grey on a dying horse" coming to meet Jon Snow.
Who is the girl in grey?
Who is the girl in grey?
Posted on 4/27/13 at 9:56 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
Just read another cool theory on it besides Alys... LINK
Go to the bottom of the post (starting at the second to last quote). Basically the poster is saying that what Mel actually sees in her vision is not the same thing as what she tells Jon.
What she sees
"girl as grey as ash"
What she says
"a girl in grey" and "fleeing from marriage"
The actual girl in the vision could be Asha Greyjoy. But there could be foreshadowing in what Mel says...that the girl in grey fleeing from a marriage is a Stark.
The poster was replying to someone who proposed that it was Sansa in the vision, but it could be more like foreshadowing in what Mel said. Sansa was just arranged in a marriage and would come out in a "maiden’s cloak of white and grey." Sansa could be fleeing that marriage. Or something like that.
Go to the bottom of the post (starting at the second to last quote). Basically the poster is saying that what Mel actually sees in her vision is not the same thing as what she tells Jon.
What she sees
"girl as grey as ash"
What she says
"a girl in grey" and "fleeing from marriage"
The actual girl in the vision could be Asha Greyjoy. But there could be foreshadowing in what Mel says...that the girl in grey fleeing from a marriage is a Stark.
The poster was replying to someone who proposed that it was Sansa in the vision, but it could be more like foreshadowing in what Mel said. Sansa was just arranged in a marriage and would come out in a "maiden’s cloak of white and grey." Sansa could be fleeing that marriage. Or something like that.
Posted on 4/27/13 at 10:40 pm to BleedPurpleGold
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Seriously, she has to be the biggest retard in literature.
Ned Stark says howdy
Posted on 4/27/13 at 10:44 pm to kingbob
Cersei is pretty dumb as well
Cool theory on the girl in grey, after reading the chapter... Uncat would have been my guess
Cool theory on the girl in grey, after reading the chapter... Uncat would have been my guess
Posted on 4/27/13 at 11:00 pm to putt23
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Crannogmen are cajuns
The Crannogmen are perfect cajuns:
They keep to themselves
The eat frogs and mud bugs
They live in a marsh.
Crackpot: The Crannogmen are rich, just stupidly rich. How? because Greywater watch is a mobile oil platform. That's right, the Crannogmen are cajuns, and like cajuns, work on oil rigs. They trade that oil to the free cities. In fact, before the doom, the Valyrians had electricity which ran on the Crannogman oil.
After the doom, losing their primary trading partner and seeing that the Targs were douche bags, they remained secluded, occassionally chilling with the Starks, having Crawfish boils, making reality TV shows about hunting Lizard Lions, and cheering on the Tigers.
PS, the crannogmen started the STTD,B chant.
Posted on 4/27/13 at 11:04 pm to kingbob
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PS, the crannogmen started the STTD,B chant.
then i hope the reeds burn in 7 hells
Posted on 4/27/13 at 11:25 pm to kingbob
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They live in a marsh.
The Crannogmen live in mobile homes in the marsh. That's the beauty of it.
This post was edited on 4/27/13 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 4/27/13 at 11:32 pm to shinerfan
I bet they wear camo Duck Commander baseball caps too
Posted on 4/27/13 at 11:40 pm to kingbob
Aand white rubber boots, I think that goes without saying.
Posted on 4/27/13 at 11:50 pm to shinerfan
nah, lizard lion skin or bust, with the eyes still on 'em
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:07 am to saintsfan92612
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then i hope the reeds burn in 7 hells
Yeah no longer my favorite house if that's the case.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:11 am to BleedPurpleGold
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In the A Song of Ice and Fire novels, the crannogmen of the Neck are gifted and talented hunters and warriors. They have an ages-old feud with House Frey, who rule the lands immediately to the south. The Reeds came to the attention of their liege lords, House Stark, when Howland Reed met Eddard Stark at a tournament at Harrenhal. Howland Reed and Eddard Stark became fast friends and allies. Aside from Eddard, Howland was the only survivor of the raid at the Tower of Joy, on the occasion of Lyanna Stark's death. The Reed stronghold at Greywater Watch is hard to find because it supposedly moves around on a floating island.
I really hope they feature them, and we get info about Lyanna
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:24 am to Hugo Stiglitz
Cersei's main problem is she is too trusting...and at the same time sees EVERYTHING as a slight. I guess that's what made her chapters so great though, she literally threatened every other character with death at some point.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 12:01 pm to shinerfan
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I have a hard time thinking of Egg's son as pure evil but we really don't know.
Aerys II is Aegon V's grandson
Posted on 4/28/13 at 12:12 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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The Bad
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Who else?
in honor of tonights episode id like to nominate Qyburn to the bad list. Dude is on level with the Bastard
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