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Posted on 8/24/12 at 10:57 am to
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 10:57 am to
Re: Littlefinger

You also have to think about the current state of Westeros. It's no longer united under one throne, instead you have (or had I should say) multiple people with multiple claims.

Being the defacto guy over the Vale AND the North makes you just as much a factor as anyone sitting the Iron Throne right now. Doesn't he still technically have Harrenhal as well?
Posted by Mr. Wayne
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 11:18 am to
Good point about there not being much resistance for a completely rested and well fed army from the Vale. But if Aegon does convince Dorne to join him and the Golden Company, that army should be able to demolish all that stand in their way in Westeros. Dany is the only leader that could gather a force large enough to defeat Aegon. For this reason, that it would be too easy, I am not expecting Arianne Matel to consent to an alliance.

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Doesn't he still technically have Harrenhal as well?


Yes but other than it being a giant fortress, it doesn't come with much.
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 11:31 am to
quote:

Doesn't he still technically have Harrenhal as well?



He's also Lord Paramount of the Trident. At least in name.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 11:48 am to
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At least in name.


That's the important part. No one is going to give a shite when Littlefinger claims to have authority over them. Unless he pays them a shite load of gold, which he very well may be planning on doing, they will never fight for him in battle.
Posted by EarthwormJim
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 12:05 pm to
Completely off topic, but did anyone watch Suits last night?

They had a nice ASOIAF reference, "I always pay my debts...I'm a Lannister."
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 1:47 pm to
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Also, being on the throne is way to visible for Littlefinger, he wants to rule from the shadows not from the front.


This. He doesn't want to be king he just wants to own the man who is king
Posted by Mr. Wayne
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 2:24 pm to
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He doesn't want to be king he just wants to own the man who is king


Who do you think he is going to cast his lot in? Or do you think he will stick with the strategy of sitting the war out to see who is victorious? Personally, I think Aegon would be the most vulnerable. After Jon Connington dies, greyscale, he would be extremely easy for Littlefinger to manipulate. Though Varys would likely be right there to thwart his plans.
This post was edited on 8/24/12 at 2:25 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 2:40 pm to
He's definitely holding out to see who wins. I'd expect nothing less from Littlefinger. He's going to eat up as much land as he can and use that as his bargaining chip for a place on the Council.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 2:46 pm to
Has anyone done a ranking to who is most likely, at this point, to hold the throne at the end of the Song? I've got:

1. Aegon
2. Dany
3. Euron
4. Stannis

5. Everyone else including Lannisters

Now of course this all changes should a certain Prince that was Promised be awoken. I am mainly looking for everyone's thoughts on where the balance of power lies at the moment.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

he asks for Reek back, if he had fought Stannis, he would know that Theon/Reek was with him not at the Wall.


Good point. Did Roose allow this letter to go out? Does Roose know?
Posted by DestrehanTiger
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 3:02 pm to
1. Hodor
2. Patchface
3. UnJinglebell
Posted by DestrehanTiger
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

I also agree that he has not fought Stannis yet, he asks for Reek back, if he had fought Stannis, he would know that Theon/Reek was with him not at the Wall.


This isn't necessarily true. I'll post a spoiler warning if anyone doesn't want to know about chapters from TWOW that have already been read.

SPOILER















In the Theon chapter. It looks like Theon is likely about to be executed. Asha makes a request that it be done in front of a heart tree. I don't know how, but it's possible he escapes with the help of Bran. I hope Stannis isn't dead, but it's possible that Theon wasn't there if/when Ramsey and Co. conquered Stannis.
Posted by SLafourche07
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 4:51 pm to
MUST. NOT. DROP. BELOW. FIRST. PAGE.



Soooooooo... what do y'all think the possibilities are of Ned becoming a white walker?
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 5:03 pm to
But lieutenant Ned ain't got no head
This post was edited on 8/24/12 at 5:04 pm
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 5:18 pm to
I hope Roose kills Ramsay.
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 5:25 pm to
I wish Littlefinger would set someone up, and use them as a puppet to rule the kingdoms.
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 5:38 pm to
I've also been thinking (and I know it's a longshot), what if Ghost is Jon's Nissa Nissa. He loves Ghost to death, and they are really two extremely intertwined entities, so what if Ghost is the one he has to sacrifice? I would

Or, what if Jon refuses to believe in Azor Ahai due to his belief in the Old Gods, and doesn't sacrifice anyone/anything at all? That would also be spice things up; it would be much harder to defeat the Others and would add to the drama.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 5:47 pm to
Jon will do whatever it takes to defend the realm of men imo
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 5:58 pm to
If NN is seriously Arya, I will cry like a baby
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 6:06 pm to
This seems to pre-date ADWD but I just stumbled across it. Good read.


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