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Rewatched Batman Begins last night
Posted on 7/18/12 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 7/18/12 at 1:30 pm
First time watching it after seeing TDK, and I must say, I much prefer Dark Knight.
Katie Holmes was absolutely dreadful as Rachel. Her lines were so hollow and empty, and her feisty moments fell quite flat. She just wasn't believable. Maggie G was not much better, but at least she was more believable.
Ra's Al Ghul wasn't nearly as good a villain as Joker. No, I'm not one of the sheep who joined in on the Ledger suckfest. I thought he did well, but I'm speaking in terms of the villain only. Joker is a much more fascinating villain. His love for chaos was truly evil, and made him much more interesting. I feel like there should've been a more memorable Batman villain for the first flick in the series. I will say, Scarecrow was done very well.
I just feel like Dark Knight was much more well-done. It's like Nolan was testing the water of what and what not to do with a superhero flick, then he took the good parts of BB and refined his writing for Dark Knight. For example, not seeing Gotham in the daytime in BB just made the city seem so dark and gloomy and unbelievable. Nolan may have done this on purpose and saved the daytime shots for TDK as a metaphor for the city's improvement after Batman's arrival, but that is unlikely. Also, I feel like the supporting characters in TDK were much better than those of BB. A movie/tv show is only as good as the supporting characters, and I thought Gordon and Rachel were much improved, and the addition of Dent went a long way.
sorry for tl;dr, just my thoughts. I just feel like BB was a learning experience for Nolan, and he took what he learned and refined it for TDK.
Katie Holmes was absolutely dreadful as Rachel. Her lines were so hollow and empty, and her feisty moments fell quite flat. She just wasn't believable. Maggie G was not much better, but at least she was more believable.
Ra's Al Ghul wasn't nearly as good a villain as Joker. No, I'm not one of the sheep who joined in on the Ledger suckfest. I thought he did well, but I'm speaking in terms of the villain only. Joker is a much more fascinating villain. His love for chaos was truly evil, and made him much more interesting. I feel like there should've been a more memorable Batman villain for the first flick in the series. I will say, Scarecrow was done very well.
I just feel like Dark Knight was much more well-done. It's like Nolan was testing the water of what and what not to do with a superhero flick, then he took the good parts of BB and refined his writing for Dark Knight. For example, not seeing Gotham in the daytime in BB just made the city seem so dark and gloomy and unbelievable. Nolan may have done this on purpose and saved the daytime shots for TDK as a metaphor for the city's improvement after Batman's arrival, but that is unlikely. Also, I feel like the supporting characters in TDK were much better than those of BB. A movie/tv show is only as good as the supporting characters, and I thought Gordon and Rachel were much improved, and the addition of Dent went a long way.
sorry for tl;dr, just my thoughts. I just feel like BB was a learning experience for Nolan, and he took what he learned and refined it for TDK.
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Posted on 7/18/12 at 1:34 pm to Carson123987
TDK has better action and Ledger is sick as the Joker, but Begins is an overall better movie.
Posted on 7/18/12 at 1:37 pm to Carson123987
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Katie Holmes was absolutely dreadful as Rachel. Her lines were so hollow and empty, and her feisty moments fell quite flat. She just wasn't believable. Maggie G was not much better, but at least she was more believable.
I'm not a Holmes fan, but I felt that her version of Rachel was better. In Begins, she was Bruce's moral compass and you could tell she respected him. In TDK, Gyllenhal just sort of put up with him and showed no emotion towards Wayne....not that Holmes was much better. In the end, I think Gyllenhal is overrated and I hate it when a character is played by a different actor/actress.
This post was edited on 7/18/12 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 7/18/12 at 1:37 pm to Carson123987
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feel like there should've been a more memorable Batman villain for the first flick in the series.
Ra's Al Ghul taught batman how to fight. It was kind of necessary to have him.
Posted on 7/18/12 at 1:45 pm to Carson123987
I had never read any of the comics, only watched SuperFriends as a kid so that's all I knew of Scarecrow.
When I saw BB, I thought the way Scarecrow was presented was awesome and Katie Holmes was better.
I think BB was the better movie.
When I saw BB, I thought the way Scarecrow was presented was awesome and Katie Holmes was better.
I think BB was the better movie.
Posted on 7/18/12 at 1:51 pm to Carson123987
I didn't have much against Katie Holmes. Her character was your typical damsel in distress, but I commend Nolan and Goyer for not making her some dumb bimbo that is just there for eye candy. She actually is heavily involved in the events of the plot.
Posted on 7/18/12 at 1:56 pm to Carson123987
BB is great right up until the moment where batman makes his debut
Then it becomes a run of the mill superhero movie. It's still a good movie and a worthy entry to the trilogy. Origin story is difficult to do.
Then it becomes a run of the mill superhero movie. It's still a good movie and a worthy entry to the trilogy. Origin story is difficult to do.
Posted on 7/18/12 at 1:57 pm to Carson123987
Batman Begins is a vastly superior movie.
Posted on 7/18/12 at 2:53 pm to Carson123987
i enjoyed BB much more. felt like it was the better of the two films as well.
i really liked TDK, but BB is better in my mind. i saw BB after i saw TDK, fwiw
i really liked TDK, but BB is better in my mind. i saw BB after i saw TDK, fwiw
Posted on 7/18/12 at 3:07 pm to Carson123987
Watched BB on FX last night and I enjoyed the hell outta it. I'd rank it slightly below TDK only due to Ledger's performance. Both films are great, great films.
Batman Begins--9/10
The Dark Knight--10/10
The Dark Knight Rises--?/10
Batman Begins--9/10
The Dark Knight--10/10
The Dark Knight Rises--?/10
Posted on 7/18/12 at 3:12 pm to Carson123987
quote:Well, that's because it was. The gap between everything from acting quality to directing to writing. Nolan most certainly wasn't the only one to learn from BB. Bale and Holmes both grew exponentially as characters (Though, privately, I STILL think Katie Holmes leaves her rolls flat). That's why I'm extra excited for Rises. While Bale is mentally unstable, he has atleast grown as an actor. I think he'll do a marvelous job...That and Bane is a boss. 'Nuff said.
"I just feel like the Dark Knight was much more well-done."
Posted on 7/18/12 at 3:14 pm to Carson123987
quote:actually it sounds like you are smoking pole.
Ra's Al Ghul wasn't nearly as good a villain as Joker. No, I'm not one of the sheep who joined in on the Ledger suckfest.
Posted on 7/23/12 at 12:57 pm to Carson123987
Watched last night.
Loled at the little kid Katie Holmes tries to save after te police pulled uP the bridge.
Geoffrey baratheon. Little a-hole he was looking for his mom too.
Loled at the little kid Katie Holmes tries to save after te police pulled uP the bridge.
Geoffrey baratheon. Little a-hole
he was looking for his mom too. Posted on 7/23/12 at 4:47 pm to Carson123987
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Ledger suckfest
The frick? He owned that role, and I'm not someone who loves or clowns on characters... Any "suckfest" he gets is warranted
Posted on 7/23/12 at 4:56 pm to Carson123987
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No, I'm not one of the sheep who joined in on the Ledger suckfest. I thought he did well,
Catwomen did well. Bane did well. Ledger doing well is an embarrassment to say.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 7:48 am to Carson123987
Quite the opposite happened for me. I use to think TDK blew Begins out of the water, but after rewatching Begins this weekend, Begins is probably my favorite... at least equal to TDK.
Begins flows better and builds to a superb crescendo. Whereas, TDK starts out amazing and tails off in the third act.
Honestly, I think TDK is easier to like because it starts with Batman and can jump right into the action and badassery, but in the whole, Begins is the better movie.
Begins flows better and builds to a superb crescendo. Whereas, TDK starts out amazing and tails off in the third act.
Honestly, I think TDK is easier to like because it starts with Batman and can jump right into the action and badassery, but in the whole, Begins is the better movie.
Posted on 7/26/12 at 4:56 pm to Carson123987
When I first saw Begins I thought it was just a solid movie. When I first saw TDK I thought it was an amazing movie. However, the more I have watched both films, the more I realize BB is the superior movie.
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