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Posted on 4/21/12 at 1:07 am to TiVoTiger
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2. The entire plot is about a ring.
Have you read any of the books just out of curiosity?
Posted on 4/21/12 at 1:08 am to TiVoTiger
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1. Far too drawn-out only for the purposes of making more money by gullible movie-goers.
You are aware that these were based on a 1000 page epic right?This isn't like splitting a book into two films to get more money out of your audience, its a pre established trilogy. Also that makes no sense in how this is making more money out of "gullible movie-goers". This trilogy is probably the most ambitious film project since "Lawrence of Arabia", to where there was a huge risk in making these films. The films were over 3 hours long each, which are relatively rare since most people have short attention spans and don't want to sit in the theater that long, but also because that means you can't have as many showings of the same film. So your argument is retarded.
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2. The entire plot is about a ring.
So fricking what? The first rule of making a good film is it's not WHAT the film is about, but HOW the film is about. It executed the HOW almost flawlessly. Plus really this is what the film is about:
The best explanation for why they simply didn't take the eagles is because the story isn't necessarily about the ring, even though it's the focal point of the books. The books were more about friendship and loyalty. Staying true to each other in spite of what they went through. What I always get from them when I watch them.
Good explanation sicboy.
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3. The plot appears far too convoluted for the average man but is just the opposite.
Please go on and explain your stupidity.
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4. The dramatic sequences (which are basically almost the entire movie) are slow beyond paint drying. I don't think that the Elven woman (Liv Tyler) or the queen? (Cate Blanchett) could've been slower if they had given them Halcion.
It's called character development. When you're doing an 11 hour epic, you have to develop your characters more slowly than you do in say an hour and a half film. If you want to see an action film with the complete lack of it and just mindnumbing action with characters you don't give a flying frick about, watch a Roland Emmerich film.
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5. Peter Jackson must've instructed both Viggo and Elijah: "have the most dumbfounded look on your face throughout the movies as much as is humanly possible."
Posted on 4/21/12 at 1:10 am to Billy Mays
It's funny, because after watching the extended editions, I can't go back to the regular ones. I keep waiting for a certain scene to come up and doesn't
I'm guessing not. I've tried on a few occasions but couldn't get into JRT's style of writing. Everyone I know who HAS read the books just absolutely love the movies. And if they have a complaint, it's because stuff was left out.
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Have you read any of the books just out of curiosity?
I'm guessing not. I've tried on a few occasions but couldn't get into JRT's style of writing. Everyone I know who HAS read the books just absolutely love the movies. And if they have a complaint, it's because stuff was left out.
Posted on 4/21/12 at 1:11 am to TiVoTiger
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Why didn't Frodo just fly on one of those damn eagles that lifted him out of the volcano at the end of the movie
Posted on 4/21/12 at 1:12 am to TiVoTiger
I never stated that I hated it. I said, it was disappointing and far too drawn-out than it needed to be. It wasn't a bad movie, but far from a "masterpiece trilogy". It was the same movie stretched over three films for the purposes of making more money. I've been condemnded over this, but it is what it is.
Posted on 4/21/12 at 1:15 am to sicboy
I've been trying to purge the "Death of Saruman" scene beginning of ROTK: Ext. from my mind for years... it's truly dreadful and stupid when he falls on the spikey wheel to his death.
Posted on 4/21/12 at 1:16 am to OMLandshark
Have you watched the behind the scenes stuff? There's a part when they were filming either the last scenes or the last one with Elijah Wood......the scene where Frodo is writing the Lord of the Rings and he's talking about his wound still hurting. They film it, and for the most part it's good. Jackson wants to do more takes. Nothing out of the ordinary, so they go on. He does it over and over and over again, and everyone is kind of looking at each other, wondering what was wrong with the previous take. But they all know that Jackson just doesn't want it to end. He was in love with those movies.
When they finally wrapped, him and Elijah hug for a long time. At that point, I started cutting onions.
When they finally wrapped, him and Elijah hug for a long time. At that point, I started cutting onions.
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Posted on 4/21/12 at 1:18 am to Billy Mays
LOL. It is a bit hokey, isn't it? Again, I can't remember what the original scene was like.
Posted on 4/21/12 at 1:22 am to TiVoTiger
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I said, it was disappointing and far too drawn-out than it needed to be.
Aside from developing characters, what would you have cut?
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It wasn't a bad movie, but far from a "masterpiece trilogy".
Its the most consistent great trilogy of all time. Can't think of any other trilogy that is on its level of quality so consistently since most great trilogies tend to shite the bed on the final act.
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It was the same movie stretched over three films for the purposes of making more money. I've been condemnded over this, but it is what it is.
Well of course you are going to be condemned for thinking it because your reasoning is unbelievably fricking stupid. Please tell me why this film was stretched out for money making decisions over creative decisions? If that was true, the first film would be 2 hours long and they would have filmed it separately. The second would also be two hours long, with The Return of the King being divided into two other films for its grand finale, each being even shorter than the previous two films.
The fact is all 3 films were filmed simultaneously, they were each over 3 hours long with an extra hour planned on adding to each of the Extended Edition DVDs, it was filmed by a largely unknown horror movie director, the cast had no A-listers, fantasy was a pretty dead genre at the time it was greenlit, and it was known as THE unadapatable book to the big screen. So please tell me why the films were stretched out and were formulated to make as much money as possible, rather than making as it as incredible of a film they could have possibly made? I'd love to hear your reasoning.
Posted on 4/21/12 at 1:23 am to sicboy
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Have you watched the behind the scenes stuff? There's a part when they were filming either the last scenes or the last one with Elijah Wood......the scene where Frodo is writing the Lord of the Rings and he's talking about his wound still hurting. They film it, and for the most part it's good. Jackson wants to do more takes. Nothing out of the ordinary, so they go on. He does it over and over and over again, and everyone is kind of looking at each other, wondering what was wrong with the previous take. But they all know that Jackson just doesn't want it to end. He was in love with those movies.
When they finally wrapped, him and Elijah hug for a long time. At that point, I started cutting onions.
I've seen it all. My favorite film of all time so yeah, that made me tear up a bit.
Posted on 4/21/12 at 1:28 am to Wooly
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Wooly, have you really ever heard this?
Its been a punchline for several comedy routines.
Posted on 4/21/12 at 1:29 am to OMLandshark
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My favorite film of all time
Well damn.
It's my all time favorite film as well. I can understand how it isn't for everybody though. It has a bit of a cheese factor.
Posted on 4/21/12 at 1:30 am to OMLandshark
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Have you watched the behind the scenes stuff? There's a part when they were filming either the last scenes or the last one with Elijah Wood......the scene where Frodo is writing the Lord of the Rings and he's talking about his wound still hurting. They film it, and for the most part it's good. Jackson wants to do more takes. Nothing out of the ordinary, so they go on. He does it over and over and over again, and everyone is kind of looking at each other, wondering what was wrong with the previous take. But they all know that Jackson just doesn't want it to end. He was in love with those movies.
which edition is this on? i may have to get the extended version... rewatch it
Posted on 4/21/12 at 1:32 am to TiVoTiger
The eagles can't be buggered. They have to choose to help.
Posted on 4/21/12 at 1:33 am to Wooly
Extended version, in all of the bonus material, which you could dedicate an entire day to.
Posted on 4/21/12 at 1:39 am to sicboy
It's not hokey. Don't take what I say as being overly-critical of Jackson. It's a hard thing to do, but I'm saying I was disappointed. Is that good enough for you? I didn't watch any of the films before and decided to watch them together. My opinion might have been different had I watched them at the movies when they came out.
To the poster that asked if I had read the books, yes. It's the flow/feeling of the whole thing that I didn't like, maybe. It's almost always never as good as the books. It's the dragfest, stupidly acting/cast characters that made it boring.
To the poster that asked if I had read the books, yes. It's the flow/feeling of the whole thing that I didn't like, maybe. It's almost always never as good as the books. It's the dragfest, stupidly acting/cast characters that made it boring.
Posted on 4/21/12 at 1:41 am to TiVoTiger
Care to elaborate on any of my questions?
Posted on 4/21/12 at 1:50 am to OMLandshark
Sure, what are they?
Posted on 4/21/12 at 1:52 am to TiVoTiger
Read my posts, but most specifically stretching it out to make more money and not for creative purposes.
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