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Another paying student loans thread (IBR?)

Posted on 4/19/12 at 12:38 pm
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11695 posts
Posted on 4/19/12 at 12:38 pm
My wife is graduating from Med School in May. I am finishing Grad School in December. Combined we will have about $215K worth of student loans.
The best plan I have come up with is to

1)consolidate here loans into one payment since she has two servicers. All of mine are with Sallie Mae, so that shouldn't be a problem.
2) I want her to enroll in IBR because I'm not sure if we can afford what I've calculated to be around $2500/month for both our loans, but I should be able to pay around $2200-2300/month.

That a month plus mortgage, bills, etc... will have us on a pretty tight budget, but I'd like to try and pay these off within the next 7-8yrs. Keep in mind her income, and mine should go up exponentially in the next 5years.

***My concern with overpaying on the suggested IBR is whether or not they will have a problem with us paying extra? Readjust payment amounts? ***
This post was edited on 4/19/12 at 12:41 pm
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12640 posts
Posted on 4/19/12 at 12:58 pm to
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. Combined we will have about $215K




quote:

wife is graduating from Med School in May


Oh. That's right. Never mind.

quote:

income, and mine should go up exponentially in the next 5years.


Not to nitpick you, Wiz, but though the increase in salary may be 'exponential,' the exponent is quite small, and will probably get smaller as the years progress. But, you guys will be fine. As long as you don't buy too many bikes.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39647 posts
Posted on 4/19/12 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

***My concern with overpaying on the suggested IBR is whether or not they will have a problem with us paying extra? Readjust payment amounts? ***


My Googling isn't finding an answer yet. I'm curious to know the answer to this as well.
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11695 posts
Posted on 4/19/12 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

Not to nitpick you, Wiz, but though the increase in salary may be 'exponential,' the exponent is quite small, and will probably get smaller as the years progress.


Well true, generally speaking, but if I end up in my projected path, then I should be making about $40-50k more than I do now in 6 or 7 years. And of course after the wife finishes fellowship in 5yrs she should make about $120k more than she will in residency.

But enough about what how my life will hopefully shape out. Is this a good plan? And should I concern paying much higher than the suggested IBR?

This post was edited on 4/19/12 at 2:22 pm
Posted by Guster
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2009
4441 posts
Posted on 4/19/12 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

***My concern with overpaying on the suggested IBR is whether or not they will have a problem with us paying extra? Readjust payment amounts? ***


you should be able to pay more than what they suggest without a problem. In fact it will probably be better to pay more if you can afford it.

From what I've read, most of the time the suggested IBR payment isn't enough to cover the accruing interest (the government will subsidize up to 3 years worth of accrued interest if your IBR payments don't meet or exceed accruing interest). This means that unless they are planning on going for the 25-year IBR payment discharge of debt, most people will owe more by the time they are finished with residency or whatever else and get a "real" job. Again that's if they are only paying the suggested IBR rate.
Posted by SamuelJohnson
Member since Jun 2008
69 posts
Posted on 4/19/12 at 4:37 pm to
I am not a financial genius, but I think you also need to consider what your interest rates are and whether you would more likely come out ahead in the long run by investing some or all of the "extra money" rather than rushing to pay off your loans ASAP.

Just another wrinkle to consider. I'm sure one of the regular money talk gurus will drop by sooner or later with some better advice.
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11695 posts
Posted on 4/19/12 at 11:05 pm to
Isn't every payment I make on the loans, especially extra payments, like getting a 6.8% return on my money?
I can only assume debt free, from student loans anyway, the fastest way possible is the way to go. After that we'll only have a mortgage that we'll hopefully shred in no time.
Posted by Doctor Radical
Austin
Member since Feb 2008
10258 posts
Posted on 4/20/12 at 9:18 am to
quote:


1)consolidate here loans into one payment since she has two servicers. All of mine are with Sallie Mae, so that shouldn't be a problem.
2) I want her to enroll in IBR because I'm not sure if we can afford what I've calculated to be around $2500/month for both our loans, but I should be able to pay around $2200-2300/month.



The same advice I posted in the previous thread works here too:

For your loans:
First, find out if they are FELP loans or private loans (the former are backed by the feds).

If they are FELP loans, google "Direct Loan Consolidation" and do that. Once that gets done, apply for some income based or income contingent repayment plan. This will minimize your monthly payments, but make it take much longer to pay off.

If they are private loans, call Sallie Mae and see if there are different types of loan repayment plans. You cannot consolidate private loans so will be stuck with dealing with SM for the life of the loan.

Added:

Assuming that your wife is working for a non-profit hospital or you are going to work at a non-profit/government, you may be eligible for the public service loan forgiveness program (which forgives outstanding loan amounts after 10 years of repayment). She also may be eligible for forgiveness if she agrees to work in certain, underserved areas.
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11695 posts
Posted on 4/20/12 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

Assuming that your wife is working for a non-profit hospital or you are going to work at a non-profit/government, you may be eligible for the public service loan forgiveness program (which forgives outstanding loan amounts after 10 years of repayment). She also may be eligible for forgiveness if she agrees to work in certain, underserved areas.


I've looked into that, and we could come out considerably ahead with the 10yr loan forgiveness, but my wife wants to go into private practice after fellowship. Also, I'm afraid of the govt. pulling that program away at any time.

It is my understanding that you have to sign up for the rural thing at the beginning of Med School. Had I known that, and that Mandeville was rural, I probably could have stomached Mandeville for a few years.
Posted by MediTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
250 posts
Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:02 pm to
The Rural repayments are for primary care as far as I know. If she is doing a fellowship I doubt she would qualify.
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13710 posts
Posted on 4/21/12 at 1:53 pm to
I deferred my loans during residency, but I was single (not sure how being married would affect this). I'd recommend deferring her loans, and paying extra on yours (assuming equivalent interest rates).
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11695 posts
Posted on 4/23/12 at 5:14 pm to
I finally found the answer to the question I was searching.
According to AAMC the max payment while in IBR is the Standard amount.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39647 posts
Posted on 4/23/12 at 5:23 pm to
quote:

Standard amount.


I am guessing this amount would be what they would have charged you had you done normal 25 year repayment?
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11695 posts
Posted on 4/24/12 at 9:28 am to
quote:

am guessing this amount would be what they would have charged you had you done normal 25 year repayment?

Yes, except I think they initially base everything off of a 10yr plan.
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