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Ciron Black suing former financial planner...

Posted on 3/18/12 at 7:32 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/18/12 at 7:32 am
Interesting issue. Good for Ciron in trying to get someone who advised the kid poorly to be held accountable.

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Posted by Slingin Pickle
Fancy side of the North Shore
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 3/18/12 at 7:41 am to
Buyer beware
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Member since Dec 2006
94737 posts
Posted on 3/18/12 at 7:43 am to
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Buyer beware


The client was 20 - and there was a lot on the line. If I were advising Mr. Black now, I would look into the insurance company practices, because they most assuredley took the premiums.

He thought he was buying protection from the exact type of injury he suffered - either the guy who sold it to him or the guy who advised him to buy it (or both) are straight up wrong if the didn't recover on the policy.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
7144 posts
Posted on 3/18/12 at 7:49 am to
quote:

The suit claims McConley "actively searched out" Black, using the Internet and other contacts.


Lesson to be learned there. Hope he gets anything he's due, but the process of hiring a financial planner should have gone the other way.
Posted by tigeryat
God's Country
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 3/18/12 at 9:12 am to
The fine print is a bitch, especially on insurance policies.
Posted by mytigger
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Posted on 3/18/12 at 9:51 am to
obviously he should have gone with Primerica
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 3/18/12 at 10:08 am to
quote:

Ciron Black, a standout offensive lineman who was projected as a first-round NBL [sic] draft pick, suffered such an injury against Alabama in his senior season in 2009, and his claim under the policy was denied.


I think I might know why the claim was denied.
Posted by lucaslsu
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Posted on 3/18/12 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

Ciron Black, a standout offensive lineman who was projected as a first-round NBL draft pick


Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/18/12 at 2:40 pm to
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I think I might know why the claim was denied.


Ins Co make profit by denying claims.
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22628 posts
Posted on 3/18/12 at 2:58 pm to
What's the difference between a financial advisor and agent? Why wouldn't LSU find out a way to get the kid an ins. Policy if they knew he was going to be a first round pick?
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:01 pm to
He wasn't going to be a 1st Round pick. That's the thing. Whatever injuries were ailing his knees, they probably started happening sometime before his junior year.
Posted by Bobby Moore
Red Hill, Mississippi
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

Good for Ciron in trying to get someone who advised the kid poorly to be held accountable.



Take a course in college to help you in this.......nope.......
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:25 pm to
I don't think an undergrad football player can reasonably be expected to learn the details of contractual negotiations over insurance with respect to when nagging medical conditions are covered when there is also an on-field injury.

It's a huge gray area, even without knowing what the advisor specifically told Ciron, and fwiw, I hope Ciron gets some compensation out of this case, because he caught a raw deal with respect to his deteriorating knees (much like Will Arnold).

That being said, the projections going into the 2009 season that Ciron would be a 1st Round pick are laughable.
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

I don't think an undergrad football player can reasonably be expected to learn the details of contractual negotiations over insurance with respect to when nagging medical conditions are covered when there is also an on-field injury.


Yeah I think he may have a legit E&O claim. He was clearly not a sophisticated buyer and as such should have had all of the exclusions in his policy thoroughly explained to him. It is my understanding that Lloyd's athlete policies Solely cover catastrophic injury or death. That should have been explained to him and any professional broker would have had him sign a page stating that he had understood what was and was not covered.
This post was edited on 3/18/12 at 3:48 pm
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:46 pm to
Sounds like a guy that's trying to get a pay day for not making it to the league
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:51 pm to
Yeah, but in an ideal world, I think he should get a little something. After his first 2 years at LSU, he definitely looked like a top notch NFL prospect. Then, for whatever reason, he lost his mobility. A little of that was noticeable even in his sophomore year, but it was really bad in 2008 & 2009.
Posted by OGTiger
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2005
2567 posts
Posted on 3/18/12 at 3:59 pm to
And, LSU makes millions of dollars per year charging $4.00 for bottled water and $8.00 for (three chicken strips.)

Just sayin'.
Posted by King of New Orleans
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 11:11 am to
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Ciron Black


Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85663 posts
Posted on 3/19/12 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

And, LSU makes millions of dollars per year charging $4.00 for bottled water and $8.00 for (three chicken strips.)

Just sayin'.

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No, concessions are not ran through LSU. Most of the time its a pewee sports team or church group that run the stands.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/19/12 at 2:17 pm to
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No, concessions are not ran through LSU. Most of the time its a pewee sports team or church group that run the stands.
LSU may not keep 100% of the profit off concessions, but I am sure they make some money off the groups who work in the concessions stands. If nothing else, they just buy the food from LSU at slightly above cost.
This post was edited on 3/19/12 at 2:18 pm
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