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re: Saban to Penn State not as crazy as it seems (long)
Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:51 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:51 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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When coaching change rumors involving Saban stop appearing from LSU fans who instead of acting like crazy women trying to get back at their ex instead of focusing on the great job their current coach has done over the past seven seasons, I'll start taking them seriously.
FIFY.
Seriously, if he never wanted to leave MSU then he did a hell of a job convincing your former AD and President in his interview (and Nick AIN'T an actor). After the way his departure from the 'Fins was perceived, there is NO way he would be able to survive a departure from Alabama after this season with ANY credibility. And the last thing PSU needs is that, because they are as low as any program in NCAA history is right now.
Posted on 11/29/11 at 11:38 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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Now Nick loves challenges
The SEC is always a bigger challenge than the BIG10, no matter how much you build up your program
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and he needs to be appreciated.
So the insane amounts of adoration from the one of the largest fanbases in the country, ESPN, and SEC media members, the highest pay in the country, the Forbes-bestowed title of "Most Powerful Coach in Sports" and a fricking statue aren't enough appreciation?
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Nick is also not a conservative republican and you know what Alabama is like. Nick was at Kent State and read the between the lines when he talks about being at Kent State. He is no conservative Republican.
This is just absurd. He's gonna leave because of his political views? Believe it or not, there are liberals in Alabama. The Crimson White (Bama's student paper) is very liberal. And PA voted for Bush twice. I lived in Pennsylvania. The middle of the state (where State College is) is very very conservative. LSU's own James Carville said, "Pennsylvania is Philadelphia and Pittsburgh with Alabama in between."
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:36 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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Now the idea of him going to Penn State and with Meyer at Ohio State and his friend Dantonio at MSU and leading the big ten back to the top with Penn State leading the way appeals to him greatly.
I believe this has some legitimacy.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 1:07 am to llfshoals
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Like it or not, it's the truth. Yes we're arrogant, yes we've earned the right to be. We're arguably the best program in the history of the game, and that doesn't look likely to change anytime soon.
You are allowed to live in a dream world as long as Saban is there. If he leaves, you will learn the hard way how wrong you are.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 1:47 am to Jwho77
This is getting legs.
I just saw a twitter feed.....
I just saw a twitter feed.....
Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:29 am to Jwho77
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You are allowed to live in a dream world as long as Saban is there. If he leaves, you will learn the hard way how wrong you are.
Best of all time is a stretch, but there is no denying that Alabama isn't one of them. Eight straight coaches have had at least one 10 win season. That includes Bill Curry, Mike DuBose, Fran, and Shula! South Carolina just won 10 games in a year for the second time EVER. Alabama's facilities have had major renovations over the past few years. After spending over $100 million+ since 2005 on BDS no other college stadium is as close to the amenities as a pro stadium right now. Sure there will be down periods, but Alabama always bounces back. It did before Saban and it will after Saban.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 5:47 am to Ralph_Wiggum
Remember the interviews when Alabama played PSU and Saban talked about riding in the back seat of the family car all day to drive to State College PA. His dads favorite team was Penn State.
It has always been the Pinnacle to him and I sense that Alabama is getting old to him.... Nick seems very bored to me..
It has always been the Pinnacle to him and I sense that Alabama is getting old to him.... Nick seems very bored to me..
Posted on 11/30/11 at 7:15 am to genro
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So the insane amounts of adoration from the one of the largest fanbases in the country, ESPN, and SEC media members, the highest pay in the country, the Forbes-bestowed title of "Most Powerful Coach in Sports" and a fricking statue aren't enough appreciation?
Nick wants the appreciation of his peers and superiors more than fans and the media. Nick loves coaching football, but he actually understand that football is a diversion and should be seen by fans as fun and not life and death. If you think the Alabama game is the most important thing on the weekend (as a fan) instead of maybe church or family time Nick thinks you should get a life.
He'd coach Alabama or Penn State for 250,000 a year IF it meant that he was one of the highest paid if not the highest. He loves coaching football.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 8:33 am to Ralph_Wiggum
I'd guess that Nick's time with the Dolphins was probably the most miserable time that he has ever spent as a coach...I could easily see him wanting to go north where he'd be more comfortable & could still do what he loves at a high level.
He made a lot of enemies in Florida, and even though LSU fans are crazy, those Bama fans are bat-shite crazy. Nick looks very uncomfortable outside of football, and it's most likely that he's scared to death of Bama fan....Bama fans would probably go Saddam Hussein with his statue, but putting a statue up of your current coach is ridiculously ignorant & stupid...I think he'll go north.
He made a lot of enemies in Florida, and even though LSU fans are crazy, those Bama fans are bat-shite crazy. Nick looks very uncomfortable outside of football, and it's most likely that he's scared to death of Bama fan....Bama fans would probably go Saddam Hussein with his statue, but putting a statue up of your current coach is ridiculously ignorant & stupid...I think he'll go north.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:08 am to Ralph_Wiggum
The OP makes total sense. There is just one problem. I don't know if Penn State can handle Nick's dominating controlling style after what all has happened. I get the impression that the university wants a coach who answers to them. I don't see this being a good fit.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:19 am to TenTex
I would be shocked if Saban goes to Penn State. I am convinced that Bama is his last stop.
Bama may have its crazies, but so does Penn State. They are as passionate.
And Penn State won't have as fertile recruiting ground as Bama, so it will be much harder for him to win a national title there.
Bama may have its crazies, but so does Penn State. They are as passionate.
And Penn State won't have as fertile recruiting ground as Bama, so it will be much harder for him to win a national title there.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 11:13 am to llfshoals
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there's zero jobs in college football better than Alabama
I'd much rather the LSU job over the Bama job for the simple fact that recruiting is much easier (especially in-state) and couple that with the facilities. Plus everything you do as the coach would get compared to Bear. No thanks. I'll take Baton Rouge
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:01 pm to llfshoals
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We're arguably the best program in the history of the game
I feel pretty certain that Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio State, and Southern Cal would have no problem arguing that with you.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:20 pm to Random LSU Hero
quote:I will admit that I am not tuned in too much to the Bama fanbase, but I almost feel that Saban has made a lot of people forget about the Bear...at least nationally.
Plus everything you do as the coach would get compared to Bear.
The Bear has been dead nearly 29 years.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:35 pm to Random LSU Hero
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I'd much rather the LSU job over the Bama job for the simple fact that recruiting is much easier (especially in-state) and couple that with the facilities. Plus everything you do as the coach would get compared to Bear. No thanks. I'll take Baton Rouge
Facilities are going to almost be a wash as any of the big jobs. Tiger Stadium could still use several of the upgrades BDS has received over the past few years.
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I will admit that I am not tuned in too much to the Bama fanbase, but I almost feel that Saban has made a lot of people forget about the Bear...at least nationally.
Yeah I think it is a combination of that and the fact that those people, quite frankly, are dying off. Everyone thought you had to have a connection to the Bear to coach at Alabama. The fact the University got burned by the few they hired that didn't have that connection (Fran, Price) didn't do that "myth" any favors. I think Saban has proved once and for all you don't need that connection to be successful here.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 1:32 pm to BamaDude06
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Tiger Stadium could still use several of the upgrades BDS has received over the past few years.
Your concession stands are nicer...but the atmosphere in BDS is a joke. I wasnt impressed with it during the LSU game.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:02 pm to LSUTiger205
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Your concession stands are nicer...but the atmosphere in BDS is a joke. I wasnt impressed with it during the LSU game.
I'm talking about the physical building. Tiger Stadium has some very run down sections. BDS is as close to an NFL stadium that you will find in college football right now. I'm sure that will change over the next few years though, because expansions are done. It is all about maintaining and upgrading at this point. As far as crowd noise TS will always have an advantage over BDS simply because of stadium design. Sideline seat are pretty far away from the field in BDS and the bowl itself is very shallow. It is a poor design to try and keep noise in.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:56 pm to mattz1122
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Cade Foster game winning FG.
Possibly the most unrealistic part of the entire post
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:34 pm to llfshoals
quote:There's at least one; Texas.
there's zero jobs in college football better than Alabama.
Mack Brown regularly gets butt-fricked by his biggest rival yet remains the highest paid coach in America.
Top that.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:36 pm to Srbtiger06
He is not leaving for penn state, or anywhere else for that matter. I agree he seems somewhat bored in bama, and surely he doesn't fit in with that scene as compared to msu or penn, but he hates distractions and the media more than anything. The backlash if he left bama at anytime other than when bama gets tired of him would result in major meltdown in tuscaloosa and in the media. I can say firsthand they enjoyed the culture/people/administration better in BR than tuscaloosa, and probably wish he would have stuck it out here. But IMO, he is unfortunately at bama giving us headaches for the long haul
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