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The reason behind the anti-Bama sentiment
Posted on 11/28/11 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 11/28/11 at 1:18 pm
Here's my $.02:
The reason LSU fan's are bothered by this potential Bama rematch has little to do with "fear" and more to to with annoyance of the situation. Here are some reason:
1. This rematch talk stands conventional thinking on its head. College football operates under the assumption of lose and you're out. If you lose, it's out of your hands. While I know the BCS does not exclude rematches, conferences are set up, and have historically been set up to determine a champion. Said champion is awarded the opportunity to play against another conference champion (or at least a team from another conference) because of College football teams play roughly 10% of the available teams. That's a pretty small sample when compared to other sports. To omit and exclude the sample pool from the other 90% of teams, several of which have comparable resumes (OSU and VT in particular), has not been the way it works. This is irksome.
2. There is the assumption that a rematch would not be granted the other way around. I think there is a feeling that a rematch would not occur if it were any team other than Bama. Had LSU lost, they would be looking in. To compare, would you see Arkansas, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, or Auburn with the identical resume being propped up for a rematch?
Conversely, would Oklahoma or Texas, and not Oklahoma State be virtually dismissed from the conversation with the same resumes? I doubt it. A lot of it lingers from USC 03 where an LSU team with a clearly stronger resume was dismissed by the media.
That's the root of it IMO, not all but the base of people's frustration. Not fear, but sense that Bama is being given a mulligan when I don't think it woudld be given to others.
Whatever. We beat the Dawgs and the Tide again. LSU 11: GOAT.
The reason LSU fan's are bothered by this potential Bama rematch has little to do with "fear" and more to to with annoyance of the situation. Here are some reason:
1. This rematch talk stands conventional thinking on its head. College football operates under the assumption of lose and you're out. If you lose, it's out of your hands. While I know the BCS does not exclude rematches, conferences are set up, and have historically been set up to determine a champion. Said champion is awarded the opportunity to play against another conference champion (or at least a team from another conference) because of College football teams play roughly 10% of the available teams. That's a pretty small sample when compared to other sports. To omit and exclude the sample pool from the other 90% of teams, several of which have comparable resumes (OSU and VT in particular), has not been the way it works. This is irksome.
2. There is the assumption that a rematch would not be granted the other way around. I think there is a feeling that a rematch would not occur if it were any team other than Bama. Had LSU lost, they would be looking in. To compare, would you see Arkansas, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, or Auburn with the identical resume being propped up for a rematch?
Conversely, would Oklahoma or Texas, and not Oklahoma State be virtually dismissed from the conversation with the same resumes? I doubt it. A lot of it lingers from USC 03 where an LSU team with a clearly stronger resume was dismissed by the media.
That's the root of it IMO, not all but the base of people's frustration. Not fear, but sense that Bama is being given a mulligan when I don't think it woudld be given to others.
Whatever. We beat the Dawgs and the Tide again. LSU 11: GOAT.
This post was edited on 11/28/11 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 11/28/11 at 1:20 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
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There is the assumption that a rematch would not be granted the other way around.
THIS
Posted on 11/28/11 at 1:25 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
quote:
The reason LSU fan's are bothered by this potential Bama rematch has little to do with "fear"
nah that's about 80% of it, but it's natural to not want to admit that.
*pats The Rant on the head*
Posted on 11/28/11 at 1:27 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
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several of which have comparable resumes
I can't seem to remember - who did OkSt lose to?
Posted on 11/28/11 at 1:29 pm to CapstoneGrad04
It's fair to state that OSU has the significantly worse loss. It's also fair to say OSU has more quality wins than Bama.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 1:32 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
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Bama rematch has little to do with "fear"
Ignore this. This is born out of Bama fans insecurity that Okie State has a better resume than they do. If Okie State beats Oklahoma, it's really not even close.
If an LSU fan points this out, it's fear.
The new line for the gumps is that it's LSU's fault for not beating Bama worse. We can only blame ourselves.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 1:34 pm to PsychTiger
maybe, maybe not. IMO, the caliber of the loss carries more weight.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 1:34 pm to CapstoneGrad04
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I can't seem to remember
Must be something in the water there. Most of the Gump faithful can't remember losing on Nov 5th either.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 1:35 pm to CapstoneGrad04
They lost On the Road In double overtime and have more quality wins than bammer. FACT
Posted on 11/28/11 at 1:35 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
BTW, well said, GFD!!!
Posted on 11/28/11 at 1:35 pm to CapstoneGrad04
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I can't seem to remember - who did OkSt lose to?
It does not matter...they have the better resume than Bama so far and especially if they defeat OU and are conference champions and it's been posted on this board already...
Posted on 11/28/11 at 1:36 pm to CapstoneGrad04
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I can't seem to remember - who did OkSt lose to?
i cant remember, who did bama beat? who did okie state beat?
Posted on 11/28/11 at 1:36 pm to CapstoneGrad04
It didn't in 07 when we lost to Kentucky, our body of work and quality wins carried us past our loss to an inferior opponent.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 1:36 pm to CapstoneGrad04
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maybe, maybe not. IMO, the caliber of the loss carries more weight.
Of course you do GUMP......
Posted on 11/28/11 at 1:37 pm to CapstoneGrad04
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the caliber of the loss carries more weight.
So you feel losing a game at home to the #1 team without even crossing the 17 yard line carries more weight than...........
Losing on the road in OT to a bowl eligible team on a Friday night the day after 2 people in the athletic program were tragically killed?
It should be noted that both Kickers botched FG's in each games
Posted on 11/28/11 at 1:37 pm to marklsu
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It didn't in 07 when we lost to Kentucky, our body of work and quality wins carried us past our loss to an inferior opponent.
thank god we played and destroyed vt in 07. otherwise we wouldve been shite out of luck.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 1:38 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
The ultimate goal at the beginning of any season for a program the caliber of LSU is BCSNC.
By allowing a rematch, and forcing LSU to play an extra game on the road, practically at the opponents home, you are essentially saying that Alabama can be 1-1 versus you, but you have to go 2-0, to win the prize.
It's like going into deuce in tennis, winning the first point, and losing the match on the second point.
Any competition between two sides is always determined by an odd number of victories. Best of 3, best of 5, best of 7.
Allowing Bama to have a chance to win the title in a winner take all second game after a previous loss is absurd.
But, I will enjoy the matchup from the perspective of being a huge fan of the sport.
By allowing a rematch, and forcing LSU to play an extra game on the road, practically at the opponents home, you are essentially saying that Alabama can be 1-1 versus you, but you have to go 2-0, to win the prize.
It's like going into deuce in tennis, winning the first point, and losing the match on the second point.
Any competition between two sides is always determined by an odd number of victories. Best of 3, best of 5, best of 7.
Allowing Bama to have a chance to win the title in a winner take all second game after a previous loss is absurd.
But, I will enjoy the matchup from the perspective of being a huge fan of the sport.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 1:39 pm to skullhawk
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This is born out of Bama fans insecurity that Okie State has a better resume than they do.
I agree. I'm just tired of hearing it.
I just fundamentally disagree with the idea of a rematch in a bowl game under the current system of teams in the same conference. People compare FSU/UF '96--not the same thing.
I didn't want to see OSU/Michigan 2 in '06 at the expense of other 1-loss conference champs. It seems many don't want to see this either if there is a one loss conference champ.
Look it kind of sucked for the 12 years or so that the NFC ruled the AFC, but sorry. A structure is put in place and it should be followed barring no reasonable alternative. Like a said, just my $.02
This post was edited on 11/28/11 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 11/28/11 at 1:42 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
#1 reason all the way. Conferences are set up for a reason. If you can't win yours, you shouldn't play in the National Championship, because you already know that at least one team is better than you.

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