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Since Expansion to 16 Teams Seems Inevitable
Posted on 11/8/11 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 11/8/11 at 2:55 pm
Which last two teams would you like to see the SEC add?
Posted on 11/8/11 at 3:08 pm to Grateful Reb
I'd kill for Virginia Tech.
They may not admit to it, but I think they are the school "most like" A&M and it'd be awesome to have them as a rival.
They may not admit to it, but I think they are the school "most like" A&M and it'd be awesome to have them as a rival.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 3:09 pm to Grateful Reb
Ideally:
Florida State (potentially great football, great baseball, great track & field, shitty basketball --- in other words, they fit right in)
Virginia Tech (good to very good football, don't know shite about their other programs --- but they would be a great add because of their state and the TV sets it would bring)
Other options:
I really don't think there are any good ones out there without having to raid the ACC or Big 12...
but I would be ok with any combination of these schools:
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Georgia Tech
NC State
Clemson
That's probably about it though. And I doubt any of the schools I listed would even be interested
Florida State (potentially great football, great baseball, great track & field, shitty basketball --- in other words, they fit right in)
Virginia Tech (good to very good football, don't know shite about their other programs --- but they would be a great add because of their state and the TV sets it would bring)
Other options:
I really don't think there are any good ones out there without having to raid the ACC or Big 12...
but I would be ok with any combination of these schools:
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Georgia Tech
NC State
Clemson
That's probably about it though. And I doubt any of the schools I listed would even be interested
Posted on 11/8/11 at 3:26 pm to Grateful Reb
Here is the deal! Slive renegotiates TV contracts getting ridiculous money for all the teams that well then make the SEC even more attractive to potential heavy hitters like FSU, Clemson, etc.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 3:42 pm to Grateful Reb
I don't think the SEC is going to 16...I think 14 might be the magic number.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 4:31 pm to Grateful Reb
In order:
1. Notre Dame (TV $$$)
2. Oklahoma Top 5 Program (Past Present Future)
3. UNC (Large, growing market)
4. Va Tech (Market, culture, football)
5. FSU
6. UVA
7. NC State
8. Clemson
9. OK State
10. Ga Tech or Duke or Rice
1. Notre Dame (TV $$$)
2. Oklahoma Top 5 Program (Past Present Future)
3. UNC (Large, growing market)
4. Va Tech (Market, culture, football)
5. FSU
6. UVA
7. NC State
8. Clemson
9. OK State
10. Ga Tech or Duke or Rice
Posted on 11/8/11 at 8:46 pm to Grateful Reb
16 won't happen unless the ACC melts down. I don't see that happening short of a raid by the Big 10, taking, for example, Maryland and Virginia--two very logical and appealing additions for an upper midwest conference looking to expand beyond the rust belt. Absent that, you simply aren't going to get 2 quality ACC teams, which is what it would take.
If the above scenario happened, it would be tough to decide who to offer. North Carolina would be the biggest prize, but brining a partner along might be an issue. For that reason, I like Virginia Tech and FSU.
If the above scenario happened, it would be tough to decide who to offer. North Carolina would be the biggest prize, but brining a partner along might be an issue. For that reason, I like Virginia Tech and FSU.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 9:11 pm to Grateful Reb
Clemson & FSU, even out the division and get Mizzou the crap outta the East.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 9:43 am to Grateful Reb
Probably end at 20 teams, but that will take a decade. We are headed toward mega conferences and away from NCAA influence. NCAA has lost credibility and won't be able to recover.
15 and 16 might be OK and Okie State cause the PAC Presidents are too elite to take OK State. May take a couple of years. 15 and 16 don't come from the ACC unless it starts to split at the seams.
15 and 16 might be OK and Okie State cause the PAC Presidents are too elite to take OK State. May take a couple of years. 15 and 16 don't come from the ACC unless it starts to split at the seams.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 9:50 am to Grateful Reb
North Carolina and Va Tech. Not sure of the politics behind it, but that would encompass the old South on a map and would be 2 quality additions...
Posted on 11/9/11 at 11:33 am to Grateful Reb
the two who you would like and might be obtainable would be something like va tech and nc state
yes both have a big ACC buyout attached (20 million) but that would be nothing compared to the money generated by the new conference.
it would expand the SEC's geographic footprint in one of the most rational possible ways (north carolina and virginia/maryland)
But I doubt NC State or Va Tech is able to make the move - esp va tech may be stuck with virginia having recently strong armed their way into the ACC over virginia's original objections. North Carolina would obviously be a more highly coveted North Carolina option but they IMO are not leaving the ACC basketball partners they have in Duke, Wake, NC State, Maryland etc just to get sodomized on the football field
Obviously Texas is a pipe dream (too arrogant, not interested in the competition and have the LHN) and unlikely to pull teh trigger but if the SEC landed Texas and OU that would be another home run that made geographic sense
Possible 16 team SEC conference if Va Tech/NC State joined
West:
LSU
A&M
Arky
Ole Miss
Northwest:
Bama
Auburn
Missouri
Miss State
East:
Florida
Va Tech
USC
Kentucky
NorthEast:
Tennessee
UGA
North Carolina
Vandy
Possible 16 team SEC if OU/Texas joined:
West:
LSU
Texas
A&M
Ole Miss
Northwest:
OU
Arkansas
Missouri
Miss State
MidSouth:
Alabama
Auburn
Tennessee
Vandy
SouthEast:
Florida
UGA
USC
Kentucky
FWIW neither of these seems remotely possible but both would make boatloads of money for teh SEC and all of their member schools. And both proposals really also depend on teh NCAA allowing a two round playoff to determine a conference championship
yes both have a big ACC buyout attached (20 million) but that would be nothing compared to the money generated by the new conference.
it would expand the SEC's geographic footprint in one of the most rational possible ways (north carolina and virginia/maryland)
But I doubt NC State or Va Tech is able to make the move - esp va tech may be stuck with virginia having recently strong armed their way into the ACC over virginia's original objections. North Carolina would obviously be a more highly coveted North Carolina option but they IMO are not leaving the ACC basketball partners they have in Duke, Wake, NC State, Maryland etc just to get sodomized on the football field
Obviously Texas is a pipe dream (too arrogant, not interested in the competition and have the LHN) and unlikely to pull teh trigger but if the SEC landed Texas and OU that would be another home run that made geographic sense
Possible 16 team SEC conference if Va Tech/NC State joined
West:
LSU
A&M
Arky
Ole Miss
Northwest:
Bama
Auburn
Missouri
Miss State
East:
Florida
Va Tech
USC
Kentucky
NorthEast:
Tennessee
UGA
North Carolina
Vandy
Possible 16 team SEC if OU/Texas joined:
West:
LSU
Texas
A&M
Ole Miss
Northwest:
OU
Arkansas
Missouri
Miss State
MidSouth:
Alabama
Auburn
Tennessee
Vandy
SouthEast:
Florida
UGA
USC
Kentucky
FWIW neither of these seems remotely possible but both would make boatloads of money for teh SEC and all of their member schools. And both proposals really also depend on teh NCAA allowing a two round playoff to determine a conference championship
This post was edited on 11/9/11 at 11:37 am
Posted on 11/9/11 at 2:48 pm to Grateful Reb
UNC and UVA. Football is fine. Need to help hoops and (to a lesser extent) baseball.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 9:51 pm to Grateful Reb
NC St.
Va Tech.
Grab two to three more top 30 TV markets.
NC won't leave Duke.
Va Tech.
Grab two to three more top 30 TV markets.
NC won't leave Duke.
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