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re: Seriously, this "the Alabama refs hate LSU" schtick is getting OLD

Posted on 10/28/11 at 8:51 am to
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37274 posts
Posted on 10/28/11 at 8:51 am to
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And that was a judgment call that wasnt in the final 6 minutes if the game with a team trailing by less than a TD.


Judgement call? LOL. The db threw the wr down in front of the ref while the ball was in the fricking air.

And y'all can bitch till the end of time about that PP call, but you know damn well there isn't any video showing him with complete possession of the ball in bounds.

Funny that blatant pass interference is a "judgement call" but a call on a bang bang play on the edge of the sideline is "the worst call in the history of college football".
Posted by GonePecan
Southeast of disorder
Member since Feb 2011
6086 posts
Posted on 10/28/11 at 8:52 am to
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LSUGrad9295

Our fanbase disect every call against us when we win by 4 touchdowns. Do you really think they are going to stop bitching about the referees in a game that hasn't even happened yet?
Posted by noladan
new orleans
Member since Nov 2003
3803 posts
Posted on 10/28/11 at 8:54 am to
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I think it's bias more than corruption

This.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 10/28/11 at 8:54 am to
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dominate the game for 60 minutes and don't let subjective (or objective) officiating enter the equation


I love how people always say this. Don't let the refs be factor? If the refs are determined to be a factor they are one. No matter what plays you make, all a ref has to do is drop a flag, and they don't matter. Score a TD? Not unless the refs say you did. Stop the other team from scoring a TD? Not if the refs say you didn't. Catch a pass? Recover a fumble? Intercept a pass? Nope, not if the refs say you didn't.

It is impossible for a team to prevent the officiating from being a factor. Officials who want to be a factor ARE a factor, no matter what the teams do.
Posted by LSUtigersarefun
Member since Aug 2009
9602 posts
Posted on 10/28/11 at 8:55 am to
I am not a conspiracy theorist guy, but I think there were a lot of calls in 2009 that were fishy. No pi, the first down.... In fact I think there were 7 bad calls against LSU in a game, that is no six sigma defense. Especially the number of calls that that we're drive killers.
This post was edited on 10/28/11 at 8:58 am
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12269 posts
Posted on 10/28/11 at 8:55 am to
There are two things I have noticed about officating in the SEC over the last 30 yrs;
1) There are a lot of poor calls and no calls;
2) Those calls tend to favor teams in inverse relation to their distance from Birmingham and, increasingly, (ii) in direct relation to the TV revenues the conference expects from the success of the teams playing.
I will not be surprised to see poor calls on Nov. 5 that fit this general pattern, but I will not lose sleep over it.
Posted by vortex
Natchez, MS
Member since Sep 2011
19 posts
Posted on 10/28/11 at 8:56 am to
The SEC refs are fair when it comes to LSU vs Alabama. Don't get me wrong, the PP was debatable, but I think they got it right.


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Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
8700 posts
Posted on 10/28/11 at 8:57 am to
Move the SEC offices out of Alabama, don't have the head SEC ref from Alabama, get rid of the lopsided penalty statistics and make the correct calls then the perception of bias will probably go away.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 10/28/11 at 8:57 am to
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Judgement call? LOL. The db threw the wr down in front of the ref while the ball was in the fricking air.


There was no more contact than usual between DB and WRs, but your WR flopped to make it look like interference.

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And y'all can bitch till the end of time about that PP call, but you know damn well there isn't any video showing him with complete possession of the ball in bounds.


Not sure where you are getting this. All of the video clearly showed it.

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call on a bang bang play on the edge of the sideline is "the worst call in the history of college football".


The call on the field wasn't the worst in history. Upholding it on replay was one of the worst calls in a year that was chock full of horrible calls.
This post was edited on 10/28/11 at 8:58 am
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
19747 posts
Posted on 10/28/11 at 8:57 am to
Just pretty amazing to me that Nick Saban coached teams at LSU still had a great deal of penalties, while Nick Saban coached Alabama teams don't. I don't feel like going pull the stats for you, but go look them up and see where his LSU and Alabama teams ranked. I guess the likes of Muschamp, Fisher, and Dooley just weren't as good as the masterminds he has coaching for him at Alabama. I don't think it's a conspiracy...just interesting to note.
Posted by snow517
West Monroe, La
Member since Feb 2009
761 posts
Posted on 10/28/11 at 8:58 am to
Being such a high profile game #1 vs #2, I wish Slive would pull in refs from another conference.
Posted by noladan
new orleans
Member since Nov 2003
3803 posts
Posted on 10/28/11 at 8:59 am to
I know Arkansas fans are still irate about the officiating from a couple of years back when they played Florida......., Almost as bad as the officiating for LSU vs Auburn in 2006.
This post was edited on 10/28/11 at 9:01 am
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33635 posts
Posted on 10/28/11 at 9:00 am to
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Being such a high profile game #1 vs #2, I wish Slive would pull in refs from another conference.


If you are serious, then this is hands-down the Rantard Post of the Day.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 10/28/11 at 9:01 am to
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I think it's bias more than corruption


I agree that it's MORE bias than corruption, but 2009 demonstrated that there certainly is corruption. But I think you're right that, for instance, the incredible disparity in holding calls in Alabama's favor (both not calling it on them and calling it on their opponents) is probably simply a case of Alabama fans (the refs) seeing subjective things in the light most favorable to Alabama.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17716 posts
Posted on 10/28/11 at 9:02 am to
Look I'm not a conspiracy theorist. But I'll say this.. there is a huge difference when LSU is playing a non-conference game with officials from a different conference then a conference game with SEC Officials. There are no "WTF" moments, no head scratching calls or no-calls, nothing overly complicated, and understandable mistakes. It seems with SEC officials, everything is complicated, they have no clue what to do, and many times you are left baffled.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 10/28/11 at 9:03 am to
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Move the SEC offices out of Alabama, don't have the head SEC ref from Alabama, get rid of the lopsided penalty statistics and make the correct calls then the perception of bias will probably go away.


Actually, just that last part (make the correct calls) would probably do the trick.
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
19747 posts
Posted on 10/28/11 at 9:04 am to
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Judgement call?
quote:

"judgement call"


I think you don't know how to spell judgment.
Posted by Ghostfacedistiller
BR
Member since Jun 2008
17500 posts
Posted on 10/28/11 at 9:05 am to
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I know Arkansas fans are still irate about the officiating from a couple of years back when they played Florida......., Almost as bad as the officiating for LSU vs Auburn in 2006


That Arkansas game was beyond absurd. I watched that 4th quarter in an airport bar in Minneapolis and everyone there was in utter shock. It was funny because it was about as a random a collection of people as you could imagine and no one could believe what was happening.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 10/28/11 at 9:06 am to
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there is a huge difference when LSU is playing a non-conference game with officials from a different conference then a conference game with SEC Officials. There are no "WTF" moments, no head scratching calls or no-calls, nothing overly complicated, and understandable mistakes. It seems with SEC officials, everything is complicated, they have no clue what to do, and many times you are left baffled.


This is what is so revealing about it. We never have a problem in bowls or OOC games with the other team's conference officials. It's always with SEC refs. I do disagree with that last part, though. They certainly have a clue what to do, and their agenda is clear as day, not baffling at all.
Posted by cajunjj
Madison, AL
Member since May 2008
7427 posts
Posted on 10/28/11 at 9:07 am to
PP call a couple of tears ago in Bama. Dream on home boy about what great Officials in the SEC.
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