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re: Seriously, this "the Alabama refs hate LSU" schtick is getting OLD
Posted on 10/28/11 at 8:51 am to JonTheTigerFan
Posted on 10/28/11 at 8:51 am to JonTheTigerFan
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And that was a judgment call that wasnt in the final 6 minutes if the game with a team trailing by less than a TD.
Judgement call? LOL. The db threw the wr down in front of the ref while the ball was in the fricking air.
And y'all can bitch till the end of time about that PP call, but you know damn well there isn't any video showing him with complete possession of the ball in bounds.
Funny that blatant pass interference is a "judgement call" but a call on a bang bang play on the edge of the sideline is "the worst call in the history of college football".
Posted on 10/28/11 at 8:52 am to LSUGrad9295
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LSUGrad9295
Our fanbase disect every call against us when we win by 4 touchdowns. Do you really think they are going to stop bitching about the referees in a game that hasn't even happened yet?
Posted on 10/28/11 at 8:54 am to TigerBait1127
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I think it's bias more than corruption
This.
Posted on 10/28/11 at 8:54 am to LSUGoose
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dominate the game for 60 minutes and don't let subjective (or objective) officiating enter the equation
I love how people always say this. Don't let the refs be factor? If the refs are determined to be a factor they are one. No matter what plays you make, all a ref has to do is drop a flag, and they don't matter. Score a TD? Not unless the refs say you did. Stop the other team from scoring a TD? Not if the refs say you didn't. Catch a pass? Recover a fumble? Intercept a pass? Nope, not if the refs say you didn't.
It is impossible for a team to prevent the officiating from being a factor. Officials who want to be a factor ARE a factor, no matter what the teams do.
Posted on 10/28/11 at 8:55 am to LSUGrad9295
I am not a conspiracy theorist guy, but I think there were a lot of calls in 2009 that were fishy. No pi, the first down.... In fact I think there were 7 bad calls against LSU in a game, that is no six sigma defense. Especially the number of calls that that we're drive killers.
This post was edited on 10/28/11 at 8:58 am
Posted on 10/28/11 at 8:55 am to VOR
There are two things I have noticed about officating in the SEC over the last 30 yrs;
1) There are a lot of poor calls and no calls;
2) Those calls tend to favor teams in inverse relation to their distance from Birmingham and, increasingly, (ii) in direct relation to the TV revenues the conference expects from the success of the teams playing.
I will not be surprised to see poor calls on Nov. 5 that fit this general pattern, but I will not lose sleep over it.
1) There are a lot of poor calls and no calls;
2) Those calls tend to favor teams in inverse relation to their distance from Birmingham and, increasingly, (ii) in direct relation to the TV revenues the conference expects from the success of the teams playing.
I will not be surprised to see poor calls on Nov. 5 that fit this general pattern, but I will not lose sleep over it.
Posted on 10/28/11 at 8:56 am to Falcon Punch
The SEC refs are fair when it comes to LSU vs Alabama. Don't get me wrong, the PP was debatable, but I think they got it right.
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Posted on 10/28/11 at 8:57 am to LSUGrad9295
Move the SEC offices out of Alabama, don't have the head SEC ref from Alabama, get rid of the lopsided penalty statistics and make the correct calls then the perception of bias will probably go away.
Posted on 10/28/11 at 8:57 am to crimsonsaint
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Judgement call? LOL. The db threw the wr down in front of the ref while the ball was in the fricking air.
There was no more contact than usual between DB and WRs, but your WR flopped to make it look like interference.
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And y'all can bitch till the end of time about that PP call, but you know damn well there isn't any video showing him with complete possession of the ball in bounds.
Not sure where you are getting this. All of the video clearly showed it.
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call on a bang bang play on the edge of the sideline is "the worst call in the history of college football".
The call on the field wasn't the worst in history. Upholding it on replay was one of the worst calls in a year that was chock full of horrible calls.
This post was edited on 10/28/11 at 8:58 am
Posted on 10/28/11 at 8:57 am to LSUGrad9295
Just pretty amazing to me that Nick Saban coached teams at LSU still had a great deal of penalties, while Nick Saban coached Alabama teams don't. I don't feel like going pull the stats for you, but go look them up and see where his LSU and Alabama teams ranked. I guess the likes of Muschamp, Fisher, and Dooley just weren't as good as the masterminds he has coaching for him at Alabama. I don't think it's a conspiracy...just interesting to note.
Posted on 10/28/11 at 8:58 am to vortex
Being such a high profile game #1 vs #2, I wish Slive would pull in refs from another conference.
Posted on 10/28/11 at 8:59 am to vortex
I know Arkansas fans are still irate about the officiating from a couple of years back when they played Florida......., Almost as bad as the officiating for LSU vs Auburn in 2006.
This post was edited on 10/28/11 at 9:01 am
Posted on 10/28/11 at 9:00 am to snow517
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Being such a high profile game #1 vs #2, I wish Slive would pull in refs from another conference.
If you are serious, then this is hands-down the Rantard Post of the Day.
Posted on 10/28/11 at 9:01 am to TigerBait1127
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I think it's bias more than corruption
I agree that it's MORE bias than corruption, but 2009 demonstrated that there certainly is corruption. But I think you're right that, for instance, the incredible disparity in holding calls in Alabama's favor (both not calling it on them and calling it on their opponents) is probably simply a case of Alabama fans (the refs) seeing subjective things in the light most favorable to Alabama.
Posted on 10/28/11 at 9:02 am to snow517
Look I'm not a conspiracy theorist. But I'll say this.. there is a huge difference when LSU is playing a non-conference game with officials from a different conference then a conference game with SEC Officials. There are no "WTF" moments, no head scratching calls or no-calls, nothing overly complicated, and understandable mistakes. It seems with SEC officials, everything is complicated, they have no clue what to do, and many times you are left baffled.
Posted on 10/28/11 at 9:03 am to tgrgrd00
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Move the SEC offices out of Alabama, don't have the head SEC ref from Alabama, get rid of the lopsided penalty statistics and make the correct calls then the perception of bias will probably go away.
Actually, just that last part (make the correct calls) would probably do the trick.
Posted on 10/28/11 at 9:04 am to crimsonsaint
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Judgement call?
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"judgement call"
I think you don't know how to spell judgment.
Posted on 10/28/11 at 9:05 am to noladan
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I know Arkansas fans are still irate about the officiating from a couple of years back when they played Florida......., Almost as bad as the officiating for LSU vs Auburn in 2006
That Arkansas game was beyond absurd. I watched that 4th quarter in an airport bar in Minneapolis and everyone there was in utter shock. It was funny because it was about as a random a collection of people as you could imagine and no one could believe what was happening.
Posted on 10/28/11 at 9:06 am to Chimlim
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there is a huge difference when LSU is playing a non-conference game with officials from a different conference then a conference game with SEC Officials. There are no "WTF" moments, no head scratching calls or no-calls, nothing overly complicated, and understandable mistakes. It seems with SEC officials, everything is complicated, they have no clue what to do, and many times you are left baffled.
This is what is so revealing about it. We never have a problem in bowls or OOC games with the other team's conference officials. It's always with SEC refs. I do disagree with that last part, though. They certainly have a clue what to do, and their agenda is clear as day, not baffling at all.
Posted on 10/28/11 at 9:07 am to spslayto
PP call a couple of tears ago in Bama. Dream on home boy about what great Officials in the SEC.
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