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burning the redshirt- a question

Posted on 9/7/11 at 10:29 am
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 9/7/11 at 10:29 am
I know, playing in a game doesn't automatically eliminate your shot at redshirting (you can still mysteriously pull your left ear or something, and get a year back).

But given our depth at RB, AND Stampley playing well at FB, did we really have to use Hilliard on one fullback handoff late in the game? Not challenging Les on player management, but that was curious. Is he that good that he would leave after 3 years anyway, and now does he need to get "hurt" to be redshirted?

TIA to the experts on the current rules
Posted by Wideman
Arlington, Virginia
Member since Jul 2005
11721 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 10:32 am to
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and now does he need to get "hurt" to be redshirted?
yes... the only way he can redshirt now is if he is granted a medical redshirt.

And those are given out like candy.
This post was edited on 9/7/11 at 10:35 am
Posted by jembeurt
Raceland
Member since Apr 2008
8870 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 10:33 am to
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playing in a game doesn't automatically eliminate your shot at redshirting


Yes it does.

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you can still mysteriously pull your left ear or something, and get a year back)


That would be a medical hardship, I believe.
Posted by jm3
Member since Jul 2010
1459 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 10:35 am to
I think redshirting is overrated in alot of situations. Especially now with the war on oversigning and forced attrition going on
Posted by TigerBoy85
Member since Feb 2008
964 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 10:37 am to
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playing in a game doesn't automatically eliminate your shot at redshirting




Yes it does.


Pretty sure you can play a certain number of snaps early in the season before conference play starts and still receive a normal redshirt.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
46036 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 10:39 am to
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Pretty sure you can play a certain number of snaps early in the season before conference play starts and still receive a normal redshirt.



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Posted by BayouBengal
Member since Nov 2003
28288 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 10:41 am to
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Pretty sure you can play a certain number of snaps early in the season before conference play starts and still receive a normal redshirt.


It's still a medical redshirt but they're given out for pretty weak injuries. Now one cannot play all the way to the Arky game and then go down with an injury and still get a med redshirt.

quote:

A special case involves the eligibility of a player who loses the majority of a season to injury. Popularly known as a medical redshirt, a hardship waiver may be granted an athlete who appears in fewer than 30% of his or her team's competitions (with none coming after the midway point of the season), then suffers a season-ending injury. A player who is granted such a waiver is treated for the purposes of their eligibility as though he or she had not competed in that season.
Posted by TIGER62
METAIRIE, LA
Member since Aug 2005
2219 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 10:41 am to
my opinion - they are going to play him because he is much better than what they have - he has played running back , can catch the ball out of the backfield, he needs to learn the the routes, blocking, and away we go- been a while since we had a fb like hester
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61266 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 10:42 am to
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Pretty sure you can play a certain number of snaps early in the season before conference play starts and still receive a normal redshirt.


This was changed a few years back. Doesn't work like this anymore.
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
30141 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 10:42 am to
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Pretty sure you can play a certain number of snaps early in the season before conference play starts and still receive a normal redshirt.


No way, no how, false, untrue, inaccurate.
Posted by jembeurt
Raceland
Member since Apr 2008
8870 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 10:44 am to
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Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
22812 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 10:44 am to
quote:

quote:
playing in a game doesn't automatically eliminate your shot at redshirting


Yes it does.

quote:
you can still mysteriously pull your left ear or something, and get a year back)


That would be a medical hardship, I believe.
Thanks; I know we commonly refer to both as redshirting. I also understand that there will be a lot of odd injuries in practice that result in gaining the medical hardship.

I'm kinda curious how contested those medical hardships are by the NCAA. If Hilliard turns out to be our starter as a senior (and given his size and Les' tendency to like bruisers, it's possible), losing a year due to a single, meaningless negative carry would suck. And unless we have some injuries racking up in the backfield this season, I don't know how much he'd play at RB behind Ware/Ford/Blue right now anyway.

Not complaining about it, just curious. It may not matter anyway, as I've heard he may be the backup FB and see a lot of time this season. I guess his playing against Oregon might cement that.
Posted by souldog
Johnstown, PA
Member since Jul 2007
1014 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 10:46 am to
Remember in '09 when Scott, Murphy, and Williams went down with injuries? Good to get RB's some PT in case one goes down - which will happen at some point.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62019 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 10:48 am to
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Is he that good that he would leave after 3 years anyway



It's after 4 years. If he redshirts, you're assuming he'll be here 5 years. But I think this conversation will be rendered moot, as I believe he'll get worked into the game plan more and more as the season progresses.
Posted by Bonjourno
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2010
2764 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 10:50 am to
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If Hilliard turns out to be our starter as a senior (and given his size and Les' tendency to like bruisers, it's possible), losing a year due to a single, meaningless negative carry would suck

It's not like we're going to stop using him
Posted by LSUTiger205
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Aug 2006
10820 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 10:52 am to
If the talent is there then you use it. No sense in red-shirting KH, AT, JL.
Posted by ligerbait
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2005
3125 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 10:52 am to
He had a carry in the 1st quarter, not just late in the game.
Posted by TorNation
Sulphur, LA
Member since Aug 2008
2892 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:03 am to
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Pretty sure you can play a certain number of snaps early in the season before conference play starts and still receive a normal redshirt.


Once again let't go over this again this season. I guess it's about that time of the year.
Posted by rjokerlsu
Big Spring, TX
Member since Apr 2007
7259 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:09 am to
There's just been one game--Kenny will have plenty of time to contribute. But I was wondering if Terrence Magee will be redshirted, with the depth at RB?
Posted by Larry Hollins
Member since Jul 2009
1545 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:12 am to
pretty sure hilliard plays this year. lm may be getting him (a big power back) ready in case ware gets injured. ware's playing style is going to get him a lot of nicks and bruises if not injuries. pretty sure we will need hilliard at some point.
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