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Am I the only one who finds it strange that they took JJ's DNA...
Posted on 8/27/11 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 8/27/11 at 7:01 pm
for an assault that resulted in all parties being treated and released from the hospital. I understand if there was a death...but I've got to think that DNA evidence is rarely if ever collected for assaults (outside of sexual assaults). It's time consuming..and expensive. Was DNA collected simply b/c of the celebrity status of those involved?
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Posted on 8/27/11 at 7:03 pm to MichiganTiger
I was thinking the same. I think BRPD is auditioning for the next season of CSI. I think we both know it was the celebrity staus.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 7:05 pm to sheek
I agree and it pisses me off. The guy shouldn't get a free ride b/c of his status...nor should you pull out DNA for an assault investigation if you normally would not.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 7:09 pm to MichiganTiger
Likely BRPD wanted to prove he kicked one of the victims by showing that there was DNA on the shoes. To do this they would have to also have JJ's DNA as a baseline because obviously his shoes would have it on them. Also it would be hard to say he never wore the shoes as a defense if his DNA was on them.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 7:10 pm to tigermed
But it is expensive overkill if they have other evidence
Posted on 8/27/11 at 7:14 pm to MichiganTiger
The BRPD wanted to make damn sure he was involved before making the arrest. Everyone bellyaching about the length of time needs to realize that they weren't setting him up. It would be unbelievably bad for them if they arrested him and it was shown that he wasn't involved. As another said, they needed a baseline for his DNA which was obviously on the shoes. Likely that some may have been on the other guy as well.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 7:15 pm to tigermed
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Likely BRPD wanted to prove he kicked one of the victims by showing that there was DNA on the shoes. To do this they would have to also have JJ's DNA as a baseline because obviously his shoes would have it on them. Also it would be hard to say he never wore the shoes as a defense if his DNA was on them.
If they find the shoes in his apartment that have dna of the one who was kicked, I highly doubt he is going to try and say they aren't his. That makes no sense in my mind whatsoever, so either I am naive, or they have some other reasoning, whether it is solid or not.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 7:15 pm to tigermed
If they find blood on JJ, they wanted to make sure it was the victims and not his own.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 7:38 pm to MichiganTiger
Unless JJ said he was wasn't there, I don't see how finding blood/DNA on a shoe proves anything.
It was a fight...blood/DNA might well wind up all over the place and on a lot of people. imo
But hey, I'm not a CSI expert.
It was a fight...blood/DNA might well wind up all over the place and on a lot of people. imo
But hey, I'm not a CSI expert.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 7:38 pm to guttata
Couldn't JJ have stepped in blood on the ground?
Posted on 8/27/11 at 7:40 pm to MichiganTiger
They are as much trying to exonerate JJ and avoid prosecution if he is innocent as trying to find evidence to prosecute him.
It cuts both ways
Posted on 8/27/11 at 7:41 pm to Uncommon Cents
so they tested 49 pair of shoes for DNA in less than a day or did they just guess the right pair to test first? Seems like it would have taken longer
Posted on 8/27/11 at 7:42 pm to MichiganTiger
Yes, the only one
Posted on 8/27/11 at 7:56 pm to Wolf Shirt
You can do legal quality DNA testing for well less that $500 now. That would be the equivalent of less that 20 man hours of police work. Having the ability to exclude a suspect at that cost level is worth id due to the number of hours involved it would take to just interview all the potential witnesses multiple times.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 7:59 pm to Wolf Shirt
DNA is very commonly used in investigations now. For example; a cigarette butt left at the scene of a burglary.
When they extract DNA from say, a bloody shoe. The swab will likely have the DNA profile from the bloods owner but may also have another profile which would likely be the person who wore the shoe. You would need a reference sample to make sure.
DNA use in criminal investigations have come a long way in 10 years and is commonly used in misdemeanor cases. You would be amazed at how much you leave behind
When they extract DNA from say, a bloody shoe. The swab will likely have the DNA profile from the bloods owner but may also have another profile which would likely be the person who wore the shoe. You would need a reference sample to make sure.
DNA use in criminal investigations have come a long way in 10 years and is commonly used in misdemeanor cases. You would be amazed at how much you leave behind
This post was edited on 8/27/11 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:01 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
Word is the guy may have scratched JJ, or whoever it was, and had his DNA under his fingernails. It could also prove that it wasn't JJ.
This post was edited on 8/27/11 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:02 pm to MichiganTiger
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It's time consuming..and expensive
False. Collection involves an oral swab, and analizing is a routine PCR test. Very cheap and routine. You can get the same test run on your pound pup for $60 in the back of a magazine to find out his/her breed.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:06 pm to MichiganTiger
JJ could have spit in the dude's face for all we know... Not trying to stir up shite, but JJ is the only one that knows for certain his involvement in this fiasco.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:11 pm to NimbleCat
Doesn't it take like at least two weeks to get the DNA results back?
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Oh, I am talking about in real life not on some stupid tv show!
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Oh, I am talking about in real life not on some stupid tv show!
Posted on 8/27/11 at 8:14 pm to tigermed
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Likely BRPD wanted to prove he kicked one of the victims by showing that there was DNA on the shoes. To do this they would have to also have JJ's DNA as a baseline because obviously his shoes would have it on them. Also it would be hard to say he never wore the shoes as a defense if his DNA was on them.
Good God, some of yall are stupid.
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