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? for those who have leased a car--lease end buyout
Posted on 8/10/11 at 11:57 am
Posted on 8/10/11 at 11:57 am
Is the lease end buyout typically a good deal? Does it work out to be less than retail?? if anyone can offer insight TIA
Posted on 8/10/11 at 11:59 am to dillpickleLSU
I'm assuming that this is the same as a bargain purchase option (BPO) and in that case, the purcahse price 'discount' at the end is just built into the lease payments over the life of the lease.
But yes, at the end of the lease, you can buy the car outright for cheaper than its market value at that moment in time.
(If I am understanding your question correctly)
Disclaimer: I have not ever leased a car; there are salesman on here that do this for a living: Calling seeLSUrun.
But yes, at the end of the lease, you can buy the car outright for cheaper than its market value at that moment in time.
(If I am understanding your question correctly)
Disclaimer: I have not ever leased a car; there are salesman on here that do this for a living: Calling seeLSUrun.
This post was edited on 8/10/11 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 8/10/11 at 12:16 pm to lynxcat
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can buy the car outright for cheaper
this is the part I want to verify..thinking about buying a tahoe/yukon this way because 45/50 grand is pretty steep to cough up all at once....and I know..if I can't afford it cash then I can't afford it..gtfo
This post was edited on 8/10/11 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 8/10/11 at 12:26 pm to dillpickleLSU
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this is the part I want to verify..thinking about buying a tahoe/yukon this way because 45/50 grand is pretty steep to cough up all at once....and I know..if I can't afford it cash then I can't afford it..gtfo
Are you looking only at new cars or are you willing to buy used?
With gas prices continuing to rise, I have to imagine you can get those at a steep discount in the used market.
Posted on 8/10/11 at 12:43 pm to dillpickleLSU
This really depends on how the lease was set up initially. The residual value of the vehicle at lease end should already be determined when the lease contract is made. If you have a copy of your contract, that information should be there.
The only thing is, the residual value can be manipulated (increased) to bring the lease note down. Not sure if this sort of manipulation of residual value is improper or not, but that's what the sales manager when I leased my last car.
I would check the lease contract. Then you can know what they will charge for buyout and decide if you think that's a fair price.
I think there may be some car dealers that frequent the board and they might know better than me if one of them cares to speak up...
The only thing is, the residual value can be manipulated (increased) to bring the lease note down. Not sure if this sort of manipulation of residual value is improper or not, but that's what the sales manager when I leased my last car.
I would check the lease contract. Then you can know what they will charge for buyout and decide if you think that's a fair price.
I think there may be some car dealers that frequent the board and they might know better than me if one of them cares to speak up...
Posted on 8/10/11 at 12:43 pm to lynxcat
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With gas prices continuing to rise, I have to imagine you can get those at a steep discount in the used market.
I've been shopping and it doesn't look like they discount them much. I see 09's and 10's listed at 40K and I can probably just buy a new one for 45...plus I got really fricked on the current car I'm in buying used, part my own fault, but by a dealer being shady and abusing a certified used label.
Posted on 8/10/11 at 1:01 pm to dillpickleLSU
I have two leased cars right now with one coming off lease next month. The buyout option is $13,500 and the trade-in value according to Kelley Blue Book is $18,675. In the past I've had two friends who took advantage of this and bought the cars from the lessor. Good deal for them and a good deal for me because I didn't have to pay the $300 disposition fee.
Posted on 8/10/11 at 2:06 pm to Layabout
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I have two leased cars right now with one coming off lease next month. The buyout option is $13,500 and the trade-in value according to Kelley Blue Book is $18,675. In the past I've had two friends who took advantage of this and bought the cars from the lessor. Good deal for them and a good deal for me because I didn't have to pay the $300 disposition fee.
do you think overall if you buy out the lease you end up paying about the same as you would have paid buying the car instead of leasing?
Posted on 8/10/11 at 3:26 pm to dillpickleLSU
I bought a lease car in April of last year. The payment was $10,700 +/-. When I traded in the car about 4 months later, I got about $10,000 for it (blue book was $11,200, but it needed new tires and a few other minor repairs).
It's definitely cheaper than buying that same car off the lot, but at the end of the day, I don't know how much equity you'll actually have in the car. You shouldn't be upside down either, so I guess that's a plus.
It's definitely cheaper than buying that same car off the lot, but at the end of the day, I don't know how much equity you'll actually have in the car. You shouldn't be upside down either, so I guess that's a plus.
Posted on 8/10/11 at 5:55 pm to dillpickleLSU
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do you think overall if you buy out the lease you end up paying about the same as you would have paid buying the car instead of leasing?
It depends on if the residual is accurate or not, what the imputed interest cost in lease rate, are you paying for additional mileage, etc. Typically, consumer leases to unsavvy lessees favor the dealer. The purchase option may or may not be in your favor at lease end based on the residual and cost of option, then you could have changes in vehicle technology/obsolescence/efficiency, etc that make the vehicle less appealing to you but that could happen if you bought the vehicle new and wanted to sell or trade it.
Personally, unless you get an outstanding deal, I would buy a cheaper priced vehicle that still fits your needs. We could be in tough times the next few years.
Posted on 8/10/11 at 6:47 pm to tirebiter
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Typically, consumer leases to unsavvy lessees favor the dealer.
The dealer sees nothing more from a lease than a purchase.
Here is basically what you need to take into account to make it simple:
Do you still want to drive this kind of car? Is it in similar and/or better shape compared to other cars with similar mileage and year?
If the answer is yes, then you need to look at the buyout plus whatever fees you have to pay at the end. If you are going over on miles, you'll have to pay a penalty. If there is damage to the vehicle besides normal wear and tear you'll have to pay that as well.
So what you need to look at is what the buyout is and then add the fees that you are most likely going to have to pay(milage is cut and dry, look at your lease contract) and add those two together.
If that number is lower than what it would cost to buy a similar vehicle, then it's a good deal to buy your lease out. If that number is higher than what a similar vehicle would cost, don't buy out the lease.
These are in pretty simple terms. If you want to lay out all the details I'm sure I and others that know about leases/cars can help you out further. Information about the type of car(make, model, year, mileage, condition) and then info on the buyout as well as the mileage would all be pertinent information to have us help you further.
Good luck!
Posted on 8/10/11 at 6:48 pm to dillpickleLSU
You should never have to pay a disposition fee. That's what acquistion fees are for and even those can be negotiated.
Posted on 8/10/11 at 11:58 pm to dillpickleLSU
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do you think overall if you buy out the lease you end up paying about the same as you would have paid buying the car instead of leasing?
No, you'll pay more because you're in effect financing for a longer period. Leases work for me because I'm a low-mileage driver and I just roll over to a new lease every three years.
One word of advice if you're going to lease: stick with the manufacturer's special incentive leases and don't deviate from them with additional options. If you do you open the door for the dealer to frick you over big time.
Posted on 8/11/11 at 12:31 am to KosmoCramer
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The dealer sees nothing more from a lease than a purchase.
Which is to maximize profit. Seriously, who is gullible here?
Posted on 8/12/11 at 3:12 am to tirebiter
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Which is to maximize profit. Seriously, who is gullible here?
Huh?
Posted on 8/12/11 at 10:18 am to Layabout
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One word of advice if you're going to lease: stick with the manufacturer's special incentive leases and don't deviate from them with additional options. If you do you open the door for the dealer to frick you over big time.
I know a girl who has been doing the same thing for years. She is friends with a salesman at a Honda dealership and he alerts her when a good deal with the manufacturer's incentive leases come around. I asked her why she doesn't just buy the car. She likes the idea of lower monthly payments, she puts very little down, if anything, and she has a new car every couple of years, has no maintence issues, etc. It works for her.
It most probaly helps at the dealership that she is a hot babe.
This post was edited on 8/12/11 at 10:23 am
Posted on 8/12/11 at 12:45 pm to doublecutter
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It most probaly helps at the dealership that she is a hot babe
pics or gtfo
I am currently leasing a 2011 Infiniti G37 Convertible. Got the price below invoice. The interest rate was a little higher, but instead of doing all cash, did a MSD, so even though I gave the dealer $7319.64, I get back $5400 when I turn the car in. If they hadn't screwed up the calculation, I would have got back $6300. I just told them to apply the extra $900 to my note instead of sending it back.
MF (Money Factor) should have been .00180 but they did a markup of .0005, but did get a discount on the msd's of .0009. Final MF was .0014. MSRP was $52505 but CC (Purchase price) was $48500. Doing a 36 month lease, 15k miles per year. Rate was not any better with a 12K or 15K, so did the 15K since I usually put about 13K on my cars per year. RV (Residual Value) is $32028. I don't put a lot of miles on the car, so I am thinking the blue book will be way over the $32028 when the lease is up, so I may just do the purchase and then sell the vehicle outright.
This post was edited on 8/12/11 at 12:48 pm
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