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Posted on 1/3/12 at 10:29 am to
Posted by TigerDog83
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Posted on 1/3/12 at 10:29 am to
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But.... I think in the early days of the Haynesville, you saw similar circumstances to what's going on now with the TMS. They all have to start somewhere. I don't think those Haynesville boys wrote $20,000/acre checks on day 1. I also mentioned before that it has been said that in the Haynesville, they really didn't know what they had until they hit the 25-30 well mark. Then all hell broke loose. My guess is the TMS should be at that level in the Tangy/Feliciana/Avoyelles/Point Coupee area sometime this year.



Also, 2008 was pre-financial collapse and it was a different time to raise money as a large independent oil company. The two biggest players who drove costs so high in the Haynesville are not active in the Tuscaloosa (Petrohawk has been sold, and Chesapeake isn't active down there). Also, gas in 2008 was > $10 per mcf. Companies face much more stringent borrowing costs now. It is much easier to move gas molecules than oil molecules through these shale plays, and the barnett and fayetteville were not overly difficult to transfer drilling and completion techniques to the Haynesville save for some of the deeper hotter areas. The Tuscaloosa appears to be much different than any of the other liquids plays active around the country so the risk profile is much higher at this stage. No one has yet completed a commercial TMS well, and until that changes don't expect bonus money to go much higher. The odds of seeing a Haynesville type leasing flurry are slim to none.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22366 posts
Posted on 1/3/12 at 12:53 pm to
Tiger - I hear what you're saying, but on the flip side, Oil is much higher today than in 2008 ($102 for WTI today; $37-ish at the end of 2008). In regards to companies facing much more stringent borrowing costs now, the deal with the Chinese at least suggests that conventional borrowing was by-passed - at least in this instance. I'd like to know if the Chinese sought out Devon or vice-versa... They use the terms "deal" and "arrangement". Is this (Foreign money) a sign of things to come? As you mentioned, the jury is still out whether they can suck it out of the ground...
This post was edited on 1/3/12 at 1:01 pm
Posted by Beerinthepocket
Dallas
Member since May 2011
856 posts
Posted on 1/4/12 at 9:40 am to
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TigerDog83


I'm not sure where you are getting your information, but there are currently two wells producing in the TMS that I know of. One of which is doing ~1,000 bpd and the other is doing ~280 bpd. The latter is only 5 stages, hence the low bpd.
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