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Is Harry Potter the greatest achievement in cinematic history?
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 5/30/11 at 12:59 pm
Think about it.
eight movies. all the same actors save a new Dumbledore because Richard Harris died. All of them have been as faithful to the novels as any other adaption. And all of them have been good (depending on your view of Harry Potter after all).
Eight movies in ten years. An entire adaption of a series of books.
I don't know of anything else that can compare.
Harry
eight movies. all the same actors save a new Dumbledore because Richard Harris died. All of them have been as faithful to the novels as any other adaption. And all of them have been good (depending on your view of Harry Potter after all).
Eight movies in ten years. An entire adaption of a series of books.
I don't know of anything else that can compare.
Harry
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Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:04 pm to Lacour
it's amazing how they've been able to make them so consistently with such high production values.
they got really lucky with the actors too.
they got really lucky with the actors too.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:13 pm to Lacour
Also, don't forget about the continuous bank that they make in the box office.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:15 pm to Lacour
I would say pretty close to it, they really have kept all the actors together even the smaller used ones through 10 years of movies.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:20 pm to Lacour
I appreciated them a lot more after I read the books.
It is neat that they kept the same authors and told the story very well to the book.
It is neat that they kept the same authors and told the story very well to the book.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:22 pm to Lacour
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All of them have been as faithful to the novels as any other adaption. And all of them have been good (depending on your view of Harry Potter after all).
I think for the most part they were a good adaptation, but the sixth movie didn't stick to the story of the book at all. They tried to make teen romance the big storyline, they barely explained the whole half blood prince thing and skipped most of the chase out of hogwarts.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:23 pm to Lacour
No it's just a sign of hollywoods expansion as a global market for action-adventure movies.
The only thing it denotes is that of a successful formula, which is only novel in it's quantity. I wouldn't qualify that as an achievement tho
The only thing it denotes is that of a successful formula, which is only novel in it's quantity. I wouldn't qualify that as an achievement tho
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:26 pm to ctalati32
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skipped most of the chase out of hogwarts.
Apparently this was because they didn't want the fight at the end of DHP2 to be redundant. Personally, I don't understand that logic as it's not really a fight in HBP so much as just running away and knocking people over on the way.
But I have been very satisfied overall with the films. A couple of them could have been done much better, but all of them are still good and tell the story from the books which is what I always wanted. The fact that they kept the entire cast this entire time has been as amazing as the way the cast the perfect person for every role.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:42 pm to blzr
Um. You musta missed how some of the preherperal characters changed races from their first appearances in the first couple of movies.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:52 pm to Volvagia
Peripheral being the operative word.
I don't care if Lavender Brown was chocolate then milky white
Harry
I don't care if Lavender Brown was chocolate then milky white
Harry
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:55 pm to Volvagia
I hated the dud at the end of HBP, but what probably irked me even more is they made Harry a coward up in the tower, where in the book, he had been immobilized by Dumbledore before Malfoy burst in.
I have had two main beefs with this series (huge fan of the books and have read them quite a few times through). I hate the current Dumbledore. I liked Richard Harris ok, but he was just......too old. AD is old in the books, but they make it clear that he always has this sense of youth and energy about him. The current AD has that, but is a tool. He's yelling at the students in OOTP (would never do that), and when they are discussing the horcruxes near the end of HBP, he acts like he doesn't have a clue what to do next. "They can be anything and anywhere!" NO!!! The whole point of the memories was to educate Harry enough about Voldemort to tell him what he would use and where he would hide them. And the actor even admitted that he never touched the books.
And Harry is a pud now. He was perfect for the first 4, I think, but has become this whiny little brat who looks scared and unsure all the time.
/rant.
I have had two main beefs with this series (huge fan of the books and have read them quite a few times through). I hate the current Dumbledore. I liked Richard Harris ok, but he was just......too old. AD is old in the books, but they make it clear that he always has this sense of youth and energy about him. The current AD has that, but is a tool. He's yelling at the students in OOTP (would never do that), and when they are discussing the horcruxes near the end of HBP, he acts like he doesn't have a clue what to do next. "They can be anything and anywhere!" NO!!! The whole point of the memories was to educate Harry enough about Voldemort to tell him what he would use and where he would hide them. And the actor even admitted that he never touched the books.
And Harry is a pud now. He was perfect for the first 4, I think, but has become this whiny little brat who looks scared and unsure all the time.
/rant.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 2:02 pm to Lacour
Have we forgotten the original Voldemort? The one with a nose?
Posted on 5/30/11 at 2:05 pm to TotesMcGotes
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Have we forgotten the original Voldemort? The one with a nose?
That was just a mistake on the director's part. How man books were out when that one was made? Voldemort's facial appearance really didn't get explained until Goblet.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 2:09 pm to TotesMcGotes
Not monetarily (which is what matters), not even close.
While it's up there with the Spiderman, Lord of the Rings, Jurassic Park, and XMen earnings... it still doesn't come to anywhere close to the Star Wars saga even in nominal terms.
Adjusted for inflation, it's not even in the same universe as Star Wars. Much less the same league!
While it's up there with the Spiderman, Lord of the Rings, Jurassic Park, and XMen earnings... it still doesn't come to anywhere close to the Star Wars saga even in nominal terms.
Adjusted for inflation, it's not even in the same universe as Star Wars. Much less the same league!
Posted on 5/30/11 at 2:25 pm to Lacour
I've never seen a single Harry Potter movie. They probably are pretty good but I wouldnt know. And the fact that this new one is going to be the 8th successful movie, just out of sheer volume that is impressive.
But "greatest achievement in cinematic history"? Naw.
I mean to me, you take something like Godfather pt. 1 and 2... Two movies that can easily be argued as two of the ten best movies of ALL TIME. That is much more impressive to me and more of a cinematic achievement than eight good movies. For that matter, a single film like Citizen Kane or Seven Samurai would be considered a better cinematic accomplishment just because of their stand alone greatness as opposed to HP being in the discussion soley based on quantity.
But "greatest achievement in cinematic history"? Naw.
I mean to me, you take something like Godfather pt. 1 and 2... Two movies that can easily be argued as two of the ten best movies of ALL TIME. That is much more impressive to me and more of a cinematic achievement than eight good movies. For that matter, a single film like Citizen Kane or Seven Samurai would be considered a better cinematic accomplishment just because of their stand alone greatness as opposed to HP being in the discussion soley based on quantity.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 2:52 pm to ImmortalSynn
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While it's up there with the Spiderman, Lord of the Rings, Jurassic Park, and XMen earnings... it still doesn't come to anywhere close to the Star Wars saga even in nominal terms.
You know not of what you speak.
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Posted on 5/30/11 at 2:57 pm to ellunchboxo
It's embarrassing that Dead Man's Chest is up on that list 
Posted on 5/30/11 at 3:04 pm to sicboy
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I hate the current Dumbledore. I liked Richard Harris ok, but he was just......too old. AD is old in the books, but they make it clear that he always has this sense of youth and energy about him. The current AD has that, but is a tool. He's yelling at the students in OOTP
I really liked Richard Harris but agree that he seemed to lack the energy I always associated with Dumbledore. I think Michael Gambon's Dumbledore works --especially in a movie where there is less time for exposition. However, he is not at all like the Dumbledore in the books. If I could have cast anyone in the role of Dumbledore, I would have gone with Michael Caine. He always seems to always have the energy and mischievous edge of J.K Rowling's Dumbledore.
One of my favorite changes from the book to the movie was Jim Broadbent's take on Slughorn. He is nothing like the character in the book but he was much more sympathetic. His talk with Harry when he agrees to turn over his memories was some of the finest acting in the entire series.
I think it is certainly one of the great achievements in cinematic history in terms of quality, financial success, and skillful adaptation.
Posted on 5/30/11 at 3:12 pm to Lacour
It very well could be. Unbelievable what the series has done. Both in print and on the big screen.
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