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Posted on 5/24/11 at 3:48 pm to
Posted by kfizzle85
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Posted on 5/24/11 at 3:48 pm to
Chrysler loan repayment a 'milestone,' President Obama says [LINK]

Warrants mentioning, not its own thread.
Posted by tirebiter
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Posted on 5/24/11 at 4:07 pm to
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Sounds like you needed to take a load off. Bottoms up


Compared to the LII nightmare that you guys are having fun with my thoughts are a cakewalk.

ETA: I am sure 2 bigazz dogs laying on me has something to do with sleep impairment.
This post was edited on 5/24/11 at 4:16 pm
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 5/24/11 at 4:21 pm to
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After pricing its IPO at $25 per share a few hours before the market opened, the Russian search giant’s share price jumped close to 40% immediately after its flotation.

The price per share opened this morning at $35, giving Yandex a market cap of roughly $11.2 billion at its debut. That means its value currently far surpasses that of LinkedIn, which went public last week (successfully, too).


Two in a row!
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/24/11 at 4:22 pm to
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Compared to the LII nightmare that you guys are having fun with my thoughts are a cakewalk.


No LII for me, just the Bar Exam. LII would be fizz and flask.
Posted by tirebiter
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Posted on 5/24/11 at 4:25 pm to
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I think I could do a Maxima. I drive too fast for an Altima. I hear they start hydroplaning once you do anything over 70.


Four cylinder or 6? I swapped out the tires on my Pathfinder at 8k miles b/c they sucked and hydroplaned, no problem thereafter with Michelin with excellent wet traction rating.

We have had 2 Maximas, both have been very good although the first one was better built and handled much more like a sports sedan. Nissan changed the turning radius when the model was changed, that has sucked for parking. Don't know about the latest model. I would say Honda is a better vehicle overall. No experience with Volvo although consumers that buy them seem to stick with the brand.

Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/24/11 at 4:25 pm to
There's no doubt many IPOs are highly volatile during the first few days of trading. For many, it's probably a flip of a coin as to whether they close green or red. Over the 6 mos. thereafter, however, their should be an upward bias if their bankers did their jobs properly, assuming they're interested in raising additional capital down the road.
Posted by tirebiter
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Posted on 5/24/11 at 4:26 pm to
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No LII for me, just the Bar Exam.


Boy, that sounds like fun shite, too.
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/24/11 at 4:32 pm to
The hydroplaning issue I've heard about was with respect to a new model Altima (last 6 yrs. or so) with standard default tires that came with the car (bought new) and a 4 cylinder. Swapping out the tires would probably do the trick. Although that's additional cash and that would probably be a lump-sum payment which would hurt my budget badly just starting out.

I assume the Maxima is heavier, which would probably make it less susceptible to the hydroplaning issue. I want something I can do business in without looking like a hotshot a-hole who's still living off his father's income. I think a Maxima would certainly meet that description, as would a Camry, as would an XC90 (nice, but not hotshot nice). There's a used X5 well within my price range for sale by someone I know, but that's starting to get into "look at me" territory, and that's something I'm trying to avoid.

One problem with the Volvo/BMW is that repairs will likely be much higher. One other problem is that my gas bill on a Volvo/BMW would be about a grand more per year (less gas mileage; premium gas) than with a mid-size sedan.
This post was edited on 5/24/11 at 4:36 pm
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/24/11 at 4:33 pm to
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Boy, that sounds like fun shite, too.


For someone who isn't going to practice, it's pretty miserable.
Posted by tirebiter
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Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 5/24/11 at 4:44 pm to
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I assume the Maxima is heavier, which would probably make it less susceptible to the hydroplaning issue.


The struts on the Altima should be stiff enough to maintain contact with the hwy at 70+ mph, the weight is less important in that respect. Those tires were the worst I have ever driven on in 30-yrs, BF Goodrich. We have had zero issues with tires on the Maxima's, but they came with speed rated tire with a performance tread that is shorter lived. Replaced those with Michelin Primacy which is a great tire with out paying an arm/leg for higher performance tires.

I would likely pass on the SUVs based on gas/cost of repair. I am keeping my Pathfinder until the wheels fall off, great engine and only drive ~ 7k/year, but will not buy another one due to mpg.

A guy that did some work for me a few weeks ago was driving a 1998 small Nissan pickup that he had put over 200k on with only changing the oil every 10k miles and using conventional oil. Nissan makes good engines.
This post was edited on 5/24/11 at 4:46 pm
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 5/24/11 at 5:04 pm to
Yeah, I think the XC90 is the "cooler" car, but your comments and my own intuition are making me lean towards a mid-sized sedan like the Maxima. I've actually got a print-out of a Maxima here in front of me. It's an older-model ('04) but very low mileage and one owner.

Besides, a higher net worth is "cooler" to me than a nicer car anyway. With the Maxima (as opposed to the XC90) I'll be able to put another grand or more into savings/investments each year. And cars are only cool for like the first few weeks. After that, 90% of them are "just cars."

At this point, the X5 is out of the running. Camry, Maxima and XC90 are all in it still, but the XC90 is starting to trail off.
This post was edited on 5/24/11 at 5:05 pm
Posted by tirebiter
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Posted on 5/24/11 at 5:32 pm to
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And cars are only cool for like the first few weeks. After that, 90% of them are "just cars."


100% true, especially if one has a car note reminder every month. I started with an econobox out of college that I drove 10-years and it saved me a ton of money early on. A friend from grad school is retiring in two years at 50, he drove Corolla's his entire professional career although could have driven most anything he wanted.

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It's an older-model ('04) but very low mileage and one owner.


I looked at the review, that is one year newer than my wife's and was a new model change although might be the same chassis, she has a GLE. Check the turning radius when you test drive it, if it turns like a log truck you might not be happy with that. She has > 100k primarily city miles and it is still in excellent mechanical condition.

This post was edited on 5/24/11 at 5:47 pm
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/24/11 at 5:35 pm to
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Camry, Maxima and XC90 are all in it still, but the XC90 is starting to trail off.


What is the price you are considering? The XC90 is practically an SUV, so that opens up an entire other area of vehicle selection.

Aren't camry's pretty expensive? I remember checking prices awhile back on new camery's and being shocked how little the difference in prices between a Camry and a luxury car were.

Another option would be a Hyundai Sonata. I just priced a CPO 2011 in "excellent" condition for under $24,000. Private party has it at around $21,000 in excellent with the price dropping from there.
Posted by Athanatos
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/24/11 at 6:01 pm to
I test drove a few XC90s recently and wasn't that impressed and the gas miliage was marginal at best. Plus, the repairs are pricey from everything I've read.

I ended up getting an Acura TL and I've been more than pleased so far. Handles great, fast as can be and gets decent gas miliage (28 avg) but it does require premium gas.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24254 posts
Posted on 5/24/11 at 6:11 pm to
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I ended up getting an Acura TL and I've been more than pleased so far. Handles great, fast as can be and gets decent gas miliage (28 avg) but it does require premium gas.


Great cars. If I can afford a luxury car in the future it will be an Audi A5, Acura TL, or Infiniti G35/M35
Posted by Blakely Bimbo
Member since Dec 2010
1183 posts
Posted on 5/24/11 at 11:05 pm to
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I think my vertigo is coming back too, might have to hit up the medicine man.


Kfizz, I've had vertigo off and on for most of my life. These exercises really work:

Neck exercises for vertigo

Posted by wegotdatwood
Member since Aug 2009
17094 posts
Posted on 5/25/11 at 12:00 am to
What's going on with asys?
Posted by bovine1
Walnut Ridge,AR via Tallulah,LA
Member since Dec 2004
1286 posts
Posted on 5/25/11 at 7:05 am to
When I got vertigo I did them Epley things. It's what the doctor did when I went. I said I'm fixin to vomit. He said " You feel like it but nobody ever does trust me." He said " Well I learned something today." That was in April 08. I haven't had anymore attacks and don't want any.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 5/25/11 at 9:23 am to
I tried those last time, but it didn't help. It's definitely stress induced, so I just got some stress meds from my mom. Its frustrating because I know its a stress thing, but I don't feel stressed, so I can't really alleviate the issue...
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 5/25/11 at 10:13 am to
XC 90s arent great on gas either, unless they really stepped up their game. My grandma's made 19. Plus, aren't those things really expensive?
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