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re: Joe Frazier vs Mike Tyson (Who would win?)
Posted on 2/16/11 at 9:22 am to Nissanmaxima
Posted on 2/16/11 at 9:22 am to Nissanmaxima
Ali and I am old enough to have seen the Ali vs. Foreman fight by delayed broadcast on ABC wide world of sports. Mike Tyson would not have beaten Ali or Foreman pre Ali. After Ali beat Foreman he lost it and was never the same fighter. Ali was never the same after the last Frazier fight. I think Tyson could have beaten Frazier once but he would have had to fight him again and then who knows. It's fun to specualate, but to there is only one greatest and his name is Ali. There has never been a heavyweight who could move like him and hit with speed and power the way Ali could.
Posted on 2/16/11 at 12:00 pm to TigerFanNKaty
I can remember when Tyson was a young up and comer. I would go visit my Great Uncle who was a welterweight contender back around Sugar Ray Robinson's time.
Anyway, we sat on his boat and watched Tyson destroy some guy. I asked my Uncle what he thought of Tyson. He said if he doesn't let the "game" get to him, he could be one of the best ever. Mentioned that Tyson was just such a skilled animal. His words. But, eventually the money would probably change him. Which it did.
I think a prime Tyson probably beats Frazier in an absolute WAR.
Ali would have done to Tyson, what he did to Liston, Foreman, and even Frazier.
I think a young Foreman would have done to Tyson what he did to Frazier.
Tyson was a tough SOB. Just go look at the beating Douglas put on him. Tyson was out of shape and Buster was a big dude just teeing off on him. After Cus died, Tyson simply didn't have any mental fortitude.
What's always so hard to figure out with these scenerio's is that they were in different eras. Back in Fraziers time, the only way to make good money was to fight other great fighters. So they had to stay hungry. For Tyson, he got paid for beating tomato cans early on. So had Tyson fought back then, maybe he would have been different. Had Frazier or Ali fought now, maybe they would have been different as well.
Anyway, we sat on his boat and watched Tyson destroy some guy. I asked my Uncle what he thought of Tyson. He said if he doesn't let the "game" get to him, he could be one of the best ever. Mentioned that Tyson was just such a skilled animal. His words. But, eventually the money would probably change him. Which it did.
I think a prime Tyson probably beats Frazier in an absolute WAR.
Ali would have done to Tyson, what he did to Liston, Foreman, and even Frazier.
I think a young Foreman would have done to Tyson what he did to Frazier.
Tyson was a tough SOB. Just go look at the beating Douglas put on him. Tyson was out of shape and Buster was a big dude just teeing off on him. After Cus died, Tyson simply didn't have any mental fortitude.
What's always so hard to figure out with these scenerio's is that they were in different eras. Back in Fraziers time, the only way to make good money was to fight other great fighters. So they had to stay hungry. For Tyson, he got paid for beating tomato cans early on. So had Tyson fought back then, maybe he would have been different. Had Frazier or Ali fought now, maybe they would have been different as well.
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