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Crowton wasn't the problem

Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:35 am
Posted by TheFinalWord
New Smyrna Beach, FL
Member since Nov 2008
2347 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:35 am
Gary Crowton always called a decent game, in my opinion---but he was limited by the quarterback's inability to execute the offense.
The real problems that need to be addressed are the quarterback and the offensive line. The team needs a good developer of quarterbacks, and better technique is needed in the offensive line (on a consistent basis).
Crowton could make offensive adjustments, but they didn't show because of the lack of execution.
We might also want to look at the wide receivers coach---I noticed a difficulty of our receivers getting open at times.
Posted by LSUbabe
baton rouge
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821 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:36 am to
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:36 am to
He wasn't the answer either.
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:36 am to
quote:

Crowton wasn't the problem
quote:

The team needs a good developer of quarterbacks


so was he or wasn't he the problem?
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:37 am to
quote:

We might also want to look at the wide receivers coach


BG.
Yikes.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:37 am to
It was his job to coach the QBs. He didn't. He was the problem
Posted by WelcomeToDeathValley
1st & 1st
Member since Aug 2006
16947 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:38 am to
quote:

The team needs a good developer of quarterbacks


so who is exactly are you pinning JJs regression on then since its not Crowton?
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:38 am to
quote:

Gary Crowton always called a decent game, in my opinion---but he was limited by the quarterback's inability to execute the offense.
The real problems that need to be addressed are the quarterback and the offensive line. The team needs a good developer of quarterbacks, and better technique is needed in the offensive line (on a consistent basis).
Crowton could make offensive adjustments, but they didn't show because of the lack of execution.
We might also want to look at the wide receivers coach---I noticed a difficulty of our receivers getting open at times.


Then why the frick did he admit to trying to run 4 WRs on the field with 9 seconds left against UT? That was all on Crowton. That's when Miles got pissed and called the Ridley pitch without the headphones on.
Posted by willeaux
Member since Jan 2006
2926 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:40 am to
Please stop.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58243 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:41 am to
BS. I usually had the feeling that he was flipping coins and shaking the magic 8 ball to help decide which plays to call. You had stuff that would be clearly working in the first quarter, but he wouldn't call it again for at least two games.
You had formations, etc that alot of people's wives could predict what play was going to be one.
Don't get me started on the option to the short side of the field.

And yes, I admit the qb situation was a problem, but it was not the biggest problem.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27427 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:41 am to
quote:

Gary Crowton always called a decent game, in my opinion---but he was limited by the quarterback's inability to execute the offense.


Loved the formation of Holliday lining up out wide in 5WR sets. Especially when our QB has trouble hitting 6'5 WRs. But let's put a 5'5 WR on the field split him out wide 15 yards away from the QB and then send him out on a route. Genius
Posted by rutiger
purgatory
Member since Jun 2007
21134 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:42 am to
while some of gcs plays were very innovative, he called a terrible game in my opinion. if im sitting in the stands and know what play is coming next, dont you think the dc on the other team knows whats coming? example, whats coming if rs goes in motion from the slot?
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93768 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:42 am to
Posted by salford227
Denham Springs, LA
Member since Dec 2005
1160 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:46 am to
Crowton was the OC and QB coach, so the lack of QB play was his fault. He also recruited the guys so that was his fault as well.

As far as the WR's, I went to 3 games and guys were open consistently. I did notice in a few of the games that the WR's wouldn't run routes as hard at the end of the game if they weren't the primary WR. Maybe that is because Jeff either threw it to the #1 guy or ran.

Against Miss St, Randle could have had
many TD's. They didn't have a safety deeper than 10 yards and Randle was wide open every play deep, but Jefferson would come off his primary to throw it deep.
Posted by KappaSwig
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
502 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:53 am to
quote:

Gary Crowton always called a decent game, in my opinion


So the FIRST last play of the TN game (mass substitution) was a decent call in your your opinion? His inability to get calls on the field before time expired is a decent call in your opinion? Three back-to-back pass plays with Jarrent Lee is a decent call in your opinion? Passing at the Ole Miss game with time expiring and need a field goal was a decent call in your opinion?

This post was edited on 1/13/11 at 10:55 am
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51467 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:56 am to
did you ever think the reason they were not able to perform was his fault? Like he didn't train them properly?

Was it JJ's fault GC kept making him drop back to pass when he is better at rollouts and play action passes? Was it the qb's fault that GC decides not to attack NC's or Auburn's weak secondaries? Was it the qb's fault he insisted on running the option or the same ten plays out of thirty or whatever it was formations? was it Lee's fault he was never allowed to play long enough to develop real chemistry with his receivers or improve his game mechanics?
Posted by tford50
Metairie, LA
Member since Jul 2006
412 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 11:35 am to
What was his excuse at the other schools he was at prior to LSU? Pretty much a parallel. Success early on with decreased production each succeeding year.
Posted by deathvalleyrox27
Alexandria, LA
Member since Nov 2007
1034 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 11:38 am to
agreed - Miles limited the playbook
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48329 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 11:47 am to
Crowton is a garbage coordinator and his coaching history proves it.

He should have been fired last year.
Posted by beco
Member since Sep 2006
3248 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 11:50 am to
Our offense is so complicated, that after 3 years, JJ nor JL do not know what they're doing!!!! That is coaching!!!!!!

We took the #1 QB recruit in the nation, and moved him to WR, because the offense is too complicated.

Maybe Crowton is better suited for the Ivy League, but it's too complicated here!!!!!
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