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Torn about Miles staying

Posted on 1/11/11 at 11:06 am
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167141 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 11:06 am
I like Les as a person and seems to be a good guy but overall I have always been o the fence about him. Week to week I hate or love him.

As much as I would love to see what a new coach can do there is also the uncertainty in a new coach. At least with Les we know what we are getting I guess.

Also, considering the class he is putting together for this year and what we have returning I think he does have us poised to make a NC run withing the next 2 years.

All of that said I am still on the fence about him staying.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 11:12 am to
Not me I'm happy about it.
Posted by DFWLSUTX
Dallas
Member since Jan 2011
1697 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 11:12 am to
I'm happy if he is staying, are you on fence of a 10-2 season? Recruiting is great, players respect him and he can get the job done......
Posted by The312
I Live in The Three One Two
Member since Aug 2008
6967 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 11:12 am to
This entire Michigan fiasco hasn't changed my opinion of Miles one iota.

Miles is a good coach, but not an elite one.

He is an exceptional recruiter.

He is a below average tactician.

His teams typically commit too many turnovers, too many penalties, and occassionally make awful blunnders (Ole Miss, Tennessee, Arkansas).

LSU under Miles plays down to its competition.

He's won a single SEC title in six years.

I'm really ambivalent about his return.
Posted by wilfont
Gulfport, MS on a Jet Ski
Member since Apr 2007
14860 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 11:39 am to
quote:

I'm really ambivalent about his return.

About sums up my position on the matter as well. He could go along way in winning me over by firing Crowton and later this year stating the QB job is open to whoever steps up in the spring.

Till then, meh
This post was edited on 1/11/11 at 11:40 am
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61776 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 11:42 am to
I'm indifferent about keeping Miles, I'm waiting to see what kind of buyout we are locked into, however, I'm not sure we had a better replacement lined up. The Florida and Miami coaching searches scared me.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68063 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 11:49 am to
I'm ambivalent about him as well...but, my issues with him, like most other fans, is clock management...something he can learn. No way it can continue.
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
30032 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 11:50 am to
there is a lot to consider:

a national championship
an sec championship
4 11 win seasons out of 6
countless 1st round draft picks
countless all americans
top 5 recruiting classes every single year
28-1 non conference
78% overall
more wins in the SEC in the past 6 years than any other team
5-1 in bowls

I'm perfectly happy to not see him leave. sure last year wasn't spectacular but saban lost to ULM his first year...think the bammers wanted him out then or want him out now? You can't prepare for LM...he does something completely crazy every week and 99% of the time, it works.

to LSU Coach Les Miles!
This post was edited on 1/11/11 at 11:51 am
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 11:52 am to
If he fires Crowton and brings in a good OC I will love the man.

If he keeps Crowton and fails to win the SEC next year and we have another pathetic offense despite some of the best players in the nation then I will be all for Miles leaving.
Posted by Purple N Gold Blood
Gods country
Member since Sep 2009
2998 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 11:54 am to
+1
Posted by BordyLSU
Austin Texas Baby
Member since Dec 2006
1314 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 11:58 am to
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This entire Michigan fiasco hasn't changed my opinion of Miles one iota.

Miles is a good coach, but not an elite one.

He is an exceptional recruiter.

He is a below average tactician.

His teams typically commit too many turnovers, too many penalties, and occassionally make awful blunnders (Ole Miss, Tennessee, Arkansas).

LSU under Miles plays down to its competition.

He's won a single SEC title in six years.

I'm really ambivalent about his return.

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+1

I will say that I didn't have a good feeling about having to replace him. The timing and potential candidates just felt like a no win situation for LSU this year.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12223 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 12:05 pm to
agree.
Mixed feelings.
Fine man, great recruiter.
Poor game manager.
How does a guy judge recruits so well, and asst. coaches/ coordinators so poorly?
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 12:08 pm to
I feel pretty much the same way..

I wanted him to stay THIS YEAR because bringing in someone new this year would have been a bad idea. However I would trade Miles away to get rid of Crowton.

If Miles fires Crowton then I will be more than happy.
Posted by Big Pun
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
3504 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 12:12 pm to
i'm not a miles hater, but not a supporter either. this time i think i'm glad he stayed.

i think he does well when he has great coordinators and he's veered away from that twice. hopefully he learned his lessons.
Posted by HooDooWitch
TD Bronze member
Member since Sep 2009
10262 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 12:18 pm to
Stout, good post. The Rant is probably the wrong place for one of those but not sure where else you could put it, .

I have never been on the Miles band wagon. I tried getting on it after the NC but it didn't last. Anyways the opportunity to hold on to the recruiting class and have a possible run in the coming year or two is the only positive I see. I just hope now that he has a new contract and job security for a few years he doesn't lay an egg.
Posted by hondapa26
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2005
3146 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

LSU under Miles plays down to its competition.


+100000000000

I'm glad he's staying, but only because there is currently noone else available. Would love to get Mullen, but that's not happening. Les(s) HAS to get rid of GC though!!! ESPECIALLY since we got Mett! Zach needs to learn a new system this year, and therefore, dominate in 2012 and 2013. The only argument would be that JJ shouldn't have to learn a new system for next year, but, let's face it, he barely knows Crowton's system now!!! So, who cares about JJ! It is all about Mett from this day forward! GET RID OF CROWTON!!!
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57262 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

About sums up my position on the matter as well. He could go along way in winning me over by firing Crowton and later this year stating the QB job is open to whoever steps up in the spring.

Till then, meh


Thank you
Posted by BACONisMEATcandy
Member since Dec 2007
46643 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 12:33 pm to
I agree
Posted by hydronik
Henderson, NV
Member since Nov 2010
2 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 12:48 pm to
Some people will never be satisfied. Miles is a great coach in a great conference. The players love him, the games are NEVER boring, and we beat quality opponents every year. It's like complaining that your supermodel wife snores too loud...

I remember the Dinardo/Halman days even if some people don't. Let's not ruin a good program and run off a good coach similiar to Nebraska a few years ago.
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
61879 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 12:52 pm to
I'm happy most seasons I don't have to worry about going to Atlanta the first week of December
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