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re: LSU'S last three years...Just a bare bones look....
Posted on 1/12/11 at 12:13 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 1/12/11 at 12:13 am to Lester Earl
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However, you play the games on the field. That is the most important thing in coaching. It is what determines winning and losing.
How do you come up with that being the most important thing?? Motivation and heart, leadership and character would be first on my list. Those boys would run through razor blades for les
THEN recruiting
THEN possibly calling timeouts etc.
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Posted on 1/12/11 at 12:18 am to dreaux
You can be the nicest coach in the world.
you can be the best recruiter in the world
you can have the most character in the world
you can have the most talented team, on paper, in the world
but if you cant put it together on gameday, you have nothing.
again, its not just calling timeouts. In fact, the biggest problems with those plays had nothing to do with calling timeout. It had to do with our coach and our team being ill-prepared for a situation like that.
you can be the best recruiter in the world
you can have the most character in the world
you can have the most talented team, on paper, in the world
but if you cant put it together on gameday, you have nothing.
again, its not just calling timeouts. In fact, the biggest problems with those plays had nothing to do with calling timeout. It had to do with our coach and our team being ill-prepared for a situation like that.
Posted on 1/12/11 at 12:19 am to OBUDan
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I've seen them all do equally as stupid and negative things....
Saban called a fake punt inside his own 20... on a long 4th down... hardly "elite coaching."
Stoops clock management in the Missouri game was a spectacle to be seen.
Miles has shown a superb intelligence for knowing when to take gambles (there's a reason we're so successful with them... and aside the freaky bounce from UF, it's not because of "luck").
africkingmen
don't forget that was mighty saban in a NC game. I was fricking speechless
when people reference the "lucky" bounce in the florida game it really pisses me off. It was UNLUCKY to bounce at all. It had probably been practiced 100 times and probably bounced twice.
This post was edited on 1/12/11 at 12:20 am
Posted on 1/12/11 at 12:22 am to Lester Earl
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again, its not just calling timeouts. In fact, the biggest problems with those plays had nothing to do with calling timeout. It had to do with our coach and our team being ill-prepared for a situation like that.
i understand what you are saying, but i just can't believe a qb at any major college doesn't know to line his team up and spike the ball. My wife was even yelling at the tv.
That is NOT on miles. Can't get blood from a turnip, JJ is the deal he was delt and JL is no better. Hopefully we get a upgrade on the OC here in a couple days
Btw, ole miss in 09 was 100% miles.
Posted on 1/12/11 at 12:22 am to dreaux
if you want to lump Les Miles in the same class as Saban and Urban Meyer and even Bob Stoops, ill laugh at you all day and night until the cows come home.
and again, Nick Saban calling a fake punt is something he can at least control. Les Miles, to this day, still doesn't know what happen vs OM and Tenn. What a joke. Anyone trying to compare the 2 is just grasping for straws. In no way are those things equal.
and again, Nick Saban calling a fake punt is something he can at least control. Les Miles, to this day, still doesn't know what happen vs OM and Tenn. What a joke. Anyone trying to compare the 2 is just grasping for straws. In no way are those things equal.
Posted on 1/12/11 at 12:24 am to dreaux
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i understand what you are saying, but i just can't believe a qb at any major college doesn't know to line his team up and spike the ball. My wife was even yelling at the tv.
well les miles had to run on 5 players to change personnel package before JJ could do anything vs Tenn. Watch the replay.
Not to mention he didnt have a 2nd play to call, knowing that if the RUNNING play he called was stopped, LSU would have to quickly line up and run another play.
Posted on 1/12/11 at 12:31 am to Lester Earl
Could you see Nick Saban doing that? Urban Meyer? Bob Stoops?
do you see them sitting their with their mouth's open when the game is on the line? hell fricking no!!!
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actually, lessy, i saw nick and urban in open mouth shock when les beat them this year.
bob, closed his mouth about half time when miles was kickin' the shite out of him.
so, yes, lessy.
do you see them sitting their with their mouth's open when the game is on the line? hell fricking no!!!
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actually, lessy, i saw nick and urban in open mouth shock when les beat them this year.
bob, closed his mouth about half time when miles was kickin' the shite out of him.
so, yes, lessy.
Posted on 1/12/11 at 12:41 am to Lester Earl
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well les miles had to run on 5 players to change personnel package before JJ could do anything vs Tenn. Watch the replay.
Not to mention he didnt have a 2nd play to call, knowing that if the RUNNING play he called was stopped, LSU would have to quickly line up and run another play.
can we at least agree that crowton is part of the problem? i hope and pray he is gone. If not? we'll see what happens.
but no, i have zero faith in crowton.
quote:was it fourth down? If not i don't see what is stoping the guy from making a decision, calling a play with who is on the field, hurry up get to the line and clock the ball. May sound like a lot and i blame crowton mainly, but this is what leaders do.
Not to mention he didnt have a 2nd play to call, knowing that if the RUNNING play he called was stopped, LSU would have to quickly line up and run another play.
Posted on 1/12/11 at 12:43 am to dreaux
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can we at least agree that crowton is part of the problem?
les already passed on firing him once, and can you say with certainty that he wont pass again this year?
les is just as responsible for the offensive woes as crowton
Posted on 1/12/11 at 12:45 am to DBG
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les is just as responsible for the offensive woes as crowton
we have a better shot of him leaving this time.
Much better ;)
Posted on 1/12/11 at 1:02 am to Lester Earl
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if you want to lump Les Miles in the same class as Saban and Urban Meyer and even Bob Stoops, ill laugh at you all day and night until the cows come home.
Be careful what you wish for, Lester......looking at all of the aforementioned records, when the cows come home they might just stomp you in the face and piss on your arse.
Their win loss records are not that far apart....and if you are trying to make a living as a lawyer, you just made a stupid fool of yourself....
Most rational, objective people would without a doubt "lump" Les Miles in the same "class" as Saban and Urban Meyer and Bob Stoops.....my God, you are the one setting yourself to be laughed at.....you should stop while you are way behind.....
Posted on 1/12/11 at 2:16 am to geaux88
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Most rational, objective people would without a doubt "lump" Les Miles in the same "class" as Saban and Urban Meyer and Bob Stoops.....
Eeeek!!
scary.
I have always maintained that I don't think Les Miles is a bad coach. But he's not in that class.
How does a guy that has been coaching football at places like Michigan, OK St, LSU, Dallas Cowboys for 30 years not have the mental reps in place to know what to do at the end of those games? That is basic coaching 101. Attention to detail. Shoot, its common sense!! Call me a stupid fool, but I just can't fathom that I am the only one alarmed at that.
It is little attentions to detail like that which separate the elite from the good. The good from the average.
And that is with any sport. The best coaches of all time do not get where they are by making mistakes like that. Not after 30 years of coaching. The best coaches study every tedious little detail. They sleep in their office to make sure they have done every thing in their power to assure that their team is ready to play. So save the elite bullshite.
This post was edited on 1/12/11 at 2:17 am
Posted on 1/12/11 at 7:13 am to dreaux
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That is NOT on miles. Can't get blood from a turnip, JJ is the deal he was delt and JL is no better. Hopefully we get a upgrade on the OC here in a couple days
Recruits aren't the coaches responsibility?
News to me
This post was edited on 1/12/11 at 7:16 am
Posted on 1/12/11 at 7:22 am to NOX
the typical 3 years to rebuild after NC.
Brilliance supplied by fine bourbon.
Brilliance supplied by fine bourbon.
Posted on 1/12/11 at 7:24 am to Lester Earl
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again, its not just calling timeouts. In fact, the biggest problems with those plays had nothing to do with calling timeout. It had to do with our coach and our team being ill-prepared for a situation like that.
There are holes in every coaches game, somewhere. Miles has some good attributes and some not so good. I don't have a lot of faith in him in contengent situations, but the overall package isn't that bad. Not ready to give up yet.
Posted on 1/12/11 at 7:30 am to TheDoc
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LSU'S last three years...Just a bare bones look....
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Recruits aren't the coaches responsibility?
News to me
RP was the heir, and zack was better then both. JJ was thrown into the mix with Zero experience. So yeah he did the best he could do, it is what it is
Posted on 1/12/11 at 7:46 am to Lester Earl
Lester Earl is Karma Police
Posted on 1/12/11 at 8:12 am to Lester Earl
quote:I'm not "glorifying" anything. It certainly wasn't the greatest year in the annals of LSU football, but it was clearly in line with the rest of Miles' tenure save 2008. We went 5-3 in the SEC. Look at his tenure:
you keep glorifying 2009. That was a bad year by LSU standards. How is 9-4 in line with what he had done previous years? It really was no better than 2008. We essentially were awarded a good bowl game because the conference as a whole was awesome.
7-1, 6-2, 6-2, 3-5, 5-3, 6-2
In three of six years, he's gone 6-2 and in five of six years, he's been within one win of 6-2. I know you know what an outlier means, and I know you're not a dumb guy. If you were presented with this in math class, 3-5 would clearly be identified as the outlier. He had a bad year in 2008. 2009 was below his established baseline, but still within his typical range of success.
quote:If my aunt had a dick, she'd be my uncle. If the ball bounces differently in 2008, we are a 10 win team in 2008. Who gives a shite about what ifs?
If the ball bounces differently this year we are a 4 lost team again this past year. Potentially 5. Would you agree?
This post was edited on 1/12/11 at 8:14 am
Posted on 1/12/11 at 8:15 am to Baloo
Baloo powns Lester...
Posted on 1/12/11 at 8:17 am to Lester Earl
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well les miles had to run on 5 players to change personnel package before JJ could do anything vs Tenn. Watch the replay.
that was Crowton...not Miles
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