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December 15th Shopping List (Tyrus Thomas)

Posted on 12/14/10 at 1:56 pm
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 12/14/10 at 1:56 pm
Ken Berger lists who he thinks are some of the more available recently signed free agents that might be on the block. LINK

Lots of names on the list but the most interesting was

quote:

* Tyrus Thomas and Kwame Brown, Bobcats: When Larry Brown says his team has begun tuning him out, it’s time to start the stopwatch on LB blowing up the roster with trades. When Brown goes into teardown mode, no one is safe -- not even Thomas, who just signed a five-year, $40 million contract. Good luck peddling that deal amid labor uncertainty, but that doesn’t mean Brown won’t try.


Although I doubt we're interested, it sounds like he's getting the Marcus Thornton treatment.

quote:

So of course if Thomas is sitting, it must be defense, right? Brown coaches defense and that's what the Bobcats do so well. But Brett Hainline of Queen City Hoops had a great look at it:

If it is defense that is forcing Larry’s hand – my numbers can’t find it. With Tyrus on the court this year, the Bobcats have allowed an efficiency of 104.0 and it goes to 106.5 with him off the court. Looks solid for him. Ok – how about individually? Tyrus is among the team leader’s in slowing down his opponent, allowing 1.8 fewer points per 100 possessions to his man than expected. Nazr and Derrick Brown bring up the rear on this at 6.7 and 5.1 more per 100, and Kwame is only slightly in front of Tyrus at -2.4. For allowed PER, Tyrus has surrendered a PER of 1.2 points below expected, with Nazr at 6.75 above, Derrick at 5.19 above and Kwame at 0.59 below.

The most minutes Thomas has seen this season is 34. His numbers that night: 26 points, 11 rebounds, three assists and four blocks. In games where Thomas has seen over 25 minutes (four games), he's averaging 22.5 ppg, 8.3 rpg and 2.0 bpg. Thomas has a PER of 23.56, which ranks him 11th in the entire league. And third among power forwards.

...Larry Brown is considered one of the great coaches in the NBA, but this almost just seems like some kind of power play with Thomas. It's like Brown has his rotation set and that's what he's going with. He will not be persuaded by some young player that's putting up a nice season. Boris Diaw and his doughy body must play!

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This post was edited on 12/14/10 at 1:59 pm
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 12/14/10 at 2:02 pm to
I'd like Tyrus Thomas.
Posted by novowels
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
2409 posts
Posted on 12/14/10 at 2:37 pm to
I would love to get Tyrus
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
289577 posts
Posted on 12/14/10 at 3:00 pm to
his contract is horrible.

in 2 years people will be bitching about him the same way they did Posey, Peja, Okafor, etc
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 12/14/10 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

his contract is horrible.


Isn't that the only way we're going to be able contend now though? I'm not saying Thomas is the guy you make that move for, but presumably if Demps is able to get a difference maker they will be an over paid difference maker someone else is dumping.
Posted by JayJay2
cane sweeeeeeet tea, Luzianne
Member since Jul 2010
15371 posts
Posted on 12/14/10 at 3:17 pm to
of course you all would like Tyrus... if I wanted anyone with a bad contract, it'd be Ben Gordon
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
289577 posts
Posted on 12/14/10 at 3:22 pm to
would just be another undersized guy to add to our frontcourt.
Posted by MrPappagiorgio
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2009
41124 posts
Posted on 12/14/10 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

it'd be Ben Gordon


Ben Gordon 2.0 is sitting on the bench
Posted by JayJay2
cane sweeeeeeet tea, Luzianne
Member since Jul 2010
15371 posts
Posted on 12/14/10 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

Ben Gordon 2.0 is sitting on the bench



hmmm not really
Posted by Lsutim3
Walker
Member since Jul 2009
893 posts
Posted on 12/14/10 at 5:12 pm to
Hmmm yes really. Why n the hell would you want Ben Gordon anyways. Geez
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27817 posts
Posted on 12/14/10 at 6:31 pm to
Go broke for John Salmons. QPon, MT5, a first round pick. Give it all up to get Salmons.

You'd have finally a 2 guard who can be the third scorer, can put the ball on the floor and also shoot the three.

Then you'd have argurably one of the 3-5 best perimeter defense in Paul, Salmons and Ariza.

Allows Marco to come off the bench and be basically a specialist.

Most are going to call me an idiot, but I really think a guy like Salmons makes us a top 4 seed in the West.
Posted by JayJay2
cane sweeeeeeet tea, Luzianne
Member since Jul 2010
15371 posts
Posted on 12/14/10 at 6:53 pm to
quote:

Hmmm yes really. Why n the hell would you want Ben Gordon anyways. Geez



hmm nah, and why wouldn't I?
Posted by Eman5805
West Bank
Member since Nov 2010
5098 posts
Posted on 12/14/10 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

would just be another undersized guy to add to our frontcourt.


He's different from Okafor and West in that he's got a great wingspan, massive hops, and actually goes after blocks.

So he plays bigger than his size.

People say we need a Tyson Chandler for CP3 to throw lobs to...Tyrus Thomas is as Tyson Chandler like as you'll ever get.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 12/15/10 at 7:38 am to
quote:

People say we need a Tyson Chandler for CP3 to throw lobs to...Tyrus Thomas is as Tyson Chandler like as you'll ever get.


I'd love to have Tyrus, but he's a good 3 inches shorter than TC.
Posted by MrPappagiorgio
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2009
41124 posts
Posted on 12/15/10 at 7:51 am to
quote:

hmm nah, and why wouldn't I?


Hes an undersized aging 2 guard who cant find minutes on a terrible Detroit team.

To Ben Gordon and his 11.5 ppg

Posted by mhasen1
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
1864 posts
Posted on 12/15/10 at 10:53 am to
quote:

if I wanted anyone with a bad contract, it'd be Ben Gordon


Willie Green is the most important player on the team. He understands what it takes to lead the bench and approaches every game as a professional.

Ben Gordon is not Willie Green.
Posted by Louie T
Member since Dec 2006
36673 posts
Posted on 12/15/10 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

of course you all would like Tyrus... if I wanted anyone with a bad contract, it'd be Ben Gordon


Gordon is trash
Posted by JayJay2
cane sweeeeeeet tea, Luzianne
Member since Jul 2010
15371 posts
Posted on 12/15/10 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

Hes an undersized aging 2 guard who cant find minutes on a terrible Detroit team.



The coaching there is an idiot who doesn't give minutes to him... He'd be getting way more time anywhere else.
Posted by JayJay2
cane sweeeeeeet tea, Luzianne
Member since Jul 2010
15371 posts
Posted on 12/15/10 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

Willie Green is the most important player on the team. He understands what it takes to lead the bench and approaches every game as a professional.

Ben Gordon is not Willie Green.


Wait? Okay... At least Green willingly gets minutes, even while playing bad... Coaching change everything. Gordon was killing and lighting up everything for the Bulls, now he's on the pistons and he's garbage?

quote:

Louie T December 15th Shopping List (Tyrus Thomas) quote: of course you all would like Tyrus... if I wanted anyone with a bad contract,

it'd be Ben Gordon Gordon is trash


Sure you say
This post was edited on 12/15/10 at 2:50 pm
Posted by AreJay
Member since Aug 2005
4186 posts
Posted on 12/15/10 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

in 2 years people will be bitching about him the same way they did Posey, Peja, Okafor, etc


in 2 yrs thomas will be 26. he'll be in the 3rd year of this deal and have 2 years remaining, so he is signed through his age 28 season.

peja was 29 in his first season with the hornets, we signed him through age 33.

posey was 32 when he signed with the hornets, we signed him through age 35.

okafor was 27 when coming to new orleans. he is signed through age 31 (he was in the 2nd year of the contract he signed with charlotte).
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