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Trent Johnson - Local players he's let slip out of state
Posted on 12/2/10 at 11:50 pm
Posted on 12/2/10 at 11:50 pm
Langston Galloway (BR) and Pat Swilling (N.O.) - St Joes
Markel Brown (Alexandria) and Brian Wiliams (BR) - O State
Chip Armelia (Sulphur) - Minnesota
Brandon Mitchell (Amite) - Arkansas (football)
Who else?
Markel Brown (Alexandria) and Brian Wiliams (BR) - O State
Chip Armelia (Sulphur) - Minnesota
Brandon Mitchell (Amite) - Arkansas (football)
Who else?
Posted on 12/3/10 at 12:00 am to Stewie Griffin
this post is worthless without stats
Posted on 12/3/10 at 12:01 am to Stewie Griffin
ok but how are those guys doing? could they help LSU? I know LSU wanted Galloway but how much and what kind of impact he would have had here is anyones guess.
Posted on 12/3/10 at 12:15 am to Stewie Griffin
galloway was never gonna come here
Posted on 12/3/10 at 12:27 am to Stewie Griffin
cedric jenkins- USM!
Posted on 12/3/10 at 12:33 am to Stewie Griffin
Out of all of the guys listed, Armelin is probably getting the most playing time.
Posted on 12/3/10 at 1:04 am to Stewie Griffin
I think Trent will get his share as time goes on.
First of all, it's not like we've ever had a fence around Louisiana in basketball the way we do in football, and secondly, it's easier to get the guys you want when you have a few years under you're belt to convince the prospects the program's heading in the right direction.
This year, and next year's classes look a little better than what we've been getting. With continued progress on the court, which I fully expect, I think Trent turns this around.
He may never get EVERY player we want from the state but, I really think we're gonna have a shot at a lot more of them.
Actually, if you think about it, as he begins his 3rd year, we have a more balanced roster than we did at almost any time during the Brady era. What I mean is, almost every year that Brady was here, were were either a team full of swingmen with no depth at 4 and 5 positions, or a team with no point guards etc.
First of all, it's not like we've ever had a fence around Louisiana in basketball the way we do in football, and secondly, it's easier to get the guys you want when you have a few years under you're belt to convince the prospects the program's heading in the right direction.
This year, and next year's classes look a little better than what we've been getting. With continued progress on the court, which I fully expect, I think Trent turns this around.
He may never get EVERY player we want from the state but, I really think we're gonna have a shot at a lot more of them.
Actually, if you think about it, as he begins his 3rd year, we have a more balanced roster than we did at almost any time during the Brady era. What I mean is, almost every year that Brady was here, were were either a team full of swingmen with no depth at 4 and 5 positions, or a team with no point guards etc.
This post was edited on 12/3/10 at 1:10 am
Posted on 12/3/10 at 5:48 am to Stewie Griffin
If you check the stats you will find that none of those guys are even close prduction wise to Turner and Stringer,except maybe Galloway.
Posted on 12/3/10 at 7:06 am to Stewie Griffin
Langston Galloway (St. Joe's):
29.8 mpg
12.7 ppg
5.7 rpg
2.25 a/to
FG% = .468
FT% = 1.00
3P% = .375
Pat Swilling (St Joe's):
14.3 mpg
1.5 ppg
1.5 rpg
1:1 a/to
FG% = .154
FT% = .556
3P% = .000
Markel Brown (Ok St):
8.7 mpg
1.7 ppg
.9 rpg
.4 a/to
FG% = .316
FT% = .000
3P% = .000
Brian Williams (Ok St):
Has not logged any minutes thus far
Chip Armelin (Minnesota):
11.9 mpg
5.1 ppg
1.6 ppg
.83 a/to
FG% = .455
FT% = .333
3P% = .200
29.8 mpg
12.7 ppg
5.7 rpg
2.25 a/to
FG% = .468
FT% = 1.00
3P% = .375
Pat Swilling (St Joe's):
14.3 mpg
1.5 ppg
1.5 rpg
1:1 a/to
FG% = .154
FT% = .556
3P% = .000
Markel Brown (Ok St):
8.7 mpg
1.7 ppg
.9 rpg
.4 a/to
FG% = .316
FT% = .000
3P% = .000
Brian Williams (Ok St):
Has not logged any minutes thus far
Chip Armelin (Minnesota):
11.9 mpg
5.1 ppg
1.6 ppg
.83 a/to
FG% = .455
FT% = .333
3P% = .200
Posted on 12/3/10 at 7:19 am to Stewie Griffin
Maybe, just maybe they don't like LSU.....
Posted on 12/3/10 at 8:24 am to Stewie Griffin
quote:
Brandon Mitchell (Amite) - Arkansas (football)
not missing out on this kid
Posted on 12/3/10 at 8:36 am to Stewie Griffin
How many players are Kennedy and Stansbury going to let leave Mississippi?
Andre Stringer - Leading scorer at LSU
Johnny O'Bryant - 5 star recruit!
Point is, you never know how these guys are going to turn out. Louisiana has had a few down years recently in basketball
Andre Stringer - Leading scorer at LSU
Johnny O'Bryant - 5 star recruit!
Point is, you never know how these guys are going to turn out. Louisiana has had a few down years recently in basketball
Posted on 12/3/10 at 10:13 am to Stewie Griffin
statsheet.com has a collection from various sources where they compile 'top 100' recruits for each year, by state, team, etc.
this uses their #s.
i count 34 'top 100' players, with lsu signing 9.
i also list in parentheses next to the year the out of state 'top 100' guys lsu signed
i realize top 100 isnt the BEST way to go, but if a guy is not on the list it probably at least means that other big schools missed them as well. Guys like antonio hudson, darrel mitchel, tyrus thomas of course had big impacts without making these lists--all LA people for LSU, so im sure non top 100 LA people had impacts at other schools as well)
this leaves out juco guys as well..
john brady (dont have his 1st yeaer, but he had to piece together JUCO scrubs because of the situation)
1998
jermaine williams - lsu
stromile swift - lsu
marqs ledoux - lsu
kyle hornsby - indiana
brandon dean - arkansas
1999 (ronald dupree - MS)
derrick zimmerman - miss st
hollis price - oklahoma
bernard king - texas atm
zach johnson - la tech
shawnson johnson - juco (later lsu)
2000
juemichael young - lsu
nick anderson - texas atm
chris duhon - duke
brandon mouton - texas
kendall dartez - louisville
2001
dwayne mitchell - auburn
marcus spears - lsu football
2002
none
2003 (tack minor - TX, regis koundjia - bahamas)
brandon bass - lsu
paul millsap - la tech
von wafer - fla st
2004
glen davis - lsu
shan foster - vandy
2005 (magnum rolle, bahamas)
tasmin mitchell - lsu
terry martin - texas tech (later came to lsu)
kenny cooper - ok st
2006
dj augustin - texas
tweety carter - baylor
perry stevenson - kentucky
2007 (anthony randolph - TX)
lacedarius dunn - baylor
leonard washington - USC
trent johnson (2008 is kind of brady/johnson, really)
2008 (delwan graham - GA)
storm warren - lsu
greg monroe - georgetown
terrane henry - ole miss
2009 (aaron dotson, WA)
none
2010 (ralston turner - AL)
matt derenbecker - lsu
this uses their #s.
i count 34 'top 100' players, with lsu signing 9.
i also list in parentheses next to the year the out of state 'top 100' guys lsu signed
i realize top 100 isnt the BEST way to go, but if a guy is not on the list it probably at least means that other big schools missed them as well. Guys like antonio hudson, darrel mitchel, tyrus thomas of course had big impacts without making these lists--all LA people for LSU, so im sure non top 100 LA people had impacts at other schools as well)
this leaves out juco guys as well..
john brady (dont have his 1st yeaer, but he had to piece together JUCO scrubs because of the situation)
1998
jermaine williams - lsu
stromile swift - lsu
marqs ledoux - lsu
kyle hornsby - indiana
brandon dean - arkansas
1999 (ronald dupree - MS)
derrick zimmerman - miss st
hollis price - oklahoma
bernard king - texas atm
zach johnson - la tech
shawnson johnson - juco (later lsu)
2000
juemichael young - lsu
nick anderson - texas atm
chris duhon - duke
brandon mouton - texas
kendall dartez - louisville
2001
dwayne mitchell - auburn
marcus spears - lsu football
2002
none
2003 (tack minor - TX, regis koundjia - bahamas)
brandon bass - lsu
paul millsap - la tech
von wafer - fla st
2004
glen davis - lsu
shan foster - vandy
2005 (magnum rolle, bahamas)
tasmin mitchell - lsu
terry martin - texas tech (later came to lsu)
kenny cooper - ok st
2006
dj augustin - texas
tweety carter - baylor
perry stevenson - kentucky
2007 (anthony randolph - TX)
lacedarius dunn - baylor
leonard washington - USC
trent johnson (2008 is kind of brady/johnson, really)
2008 (delwan graham - GA)
storm warren - lsu
greg monroe - georgetown
terrane henry - ole miss
2009 (aaron dotson, WA)
none
2010 (ralston turner - AL)
matt derenbecker - lsu
Posted on 12/3/10 at 10:26 am to Stewie Griffin
So Galloway is the only one worthwhile we've missed on, got it.
And he still wouldnt of started this year over Stringer/Dotson
And he still wouldnt of started this year over Stringer/Dotson
This post was edited on 12/3/10 at 10:29 am
Posted on 12/3/10 at 12:58 pm to Stewie Griffin
He can't have 20 players on the roster, and I'm good with the guys we have.
Posted on 12/3/10 at 7:37 pm to Stewie Griffin
quote:
Trent Johnson - Local players he's let slip out of state
Langston Galloway (BR)
You're gonna lose some players in state in hoops, that's just the way it is.
I admit I thought Trent could've done better his first couple of years here recruiting. His strategy was to sacrifice the now for the long term as he felt there were better players down the line. But I did think he sacraficed too much.
I will say I saw Derenbecker and Galloway head-to-head and I thought Derenbecker the better player in the limited time I saw them compete.
How good are the others you mentioned doing on the hardwood.
Posted on 12/4/10 at 7:13 am to Stewie Griffin
LSU is not a basketball school!
Posted on 12/4/10 at 10:04 am to Stewie Griffin
Who gives a flip about basketball?
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