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LSu Strengh of Schedule
Posted on 11/22/10 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 11/22/10 at 2:02 pm
Does anyone know where our SOS rank and how it stacks up with the other top 10 teams? Thanks
Posted on 11/22/10 at 2:14 pm to juanoLSU
1-3 and 5 are all Pac-10 teams. does that have anything to do with them being bad teams playing up? because it's oregon st., washington, UCLA, and washington st. while oregon's is 72.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 2:18 pm to AbitaFan08
Out of the top 25 S.O.S. teams in that poll, we are the only one-loss team (Auburn is the only undefeated).
Posted on 11/22/10 at 2:24 pm to fitz1190
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1-3 and 5 are all Pac-10 teams
Computers like to see teams play BCS schools. The Pac-10, due to its round robin, plays a 9 game in conference schedule. In contrast, the SEC and most other major conferences, play an 8 game conference schedule.
If a Pac-10 team schedules 1 non-conference game against a BCS school, it will have an advantage, SOS wise, over an SEC team that schedules 1 non-conference game against a BCS conference school by virtue of the extra conference game.
Is this really fair? Depends on how good the Pac-10 is conference-wise. This year, Oregon and Stanford are pretty good. Every else is competitive and only Wash State sucks.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 2:25 pm to fitz1190
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1-3 and 5 are all Pac-10 teams. does that have anything to do with them being bad teams playing up? because it's oregon st., washington, UCLA, and washington st. while oregon's is 72.
They all played respectable non-league games. Oregon played cream puff teams in their non-league match ups.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 2:35 pm to AbitaFan08
And if you're wondering why Mississippi State and Alabama are ranked above us in strength of schedule, it's because they have to play LSU and we don't!
Posted on 11/22/10 at 2:39 pm to juanoLSU
LINK
the SOS depends on what you think the rankings are of the respective teams you played.
The SAGARIN link above says LSU's schedule is #41. It says Boise is 68 and TCU is in the low 70's.
At the beginning of the season, Sagarin had LSU's SOS as the highest of any top 25 team, but no longer.
UNC losing again,
WV not doing all that well,
UT not doing all that well,
McNeese being McNeese
and U La Mon being U La Mon
drags it down.
the SOS depends on what you think the rankings are of the respective teams you played.
The SAGARIN link above says LSU's schedule is #41. It says Boise is 68 and TCU is in the low 70's.
At the beginning of the season, Sagarin had LSU's SOS as the highest of any top 25 team, but no longer.
UNC losing again,
WV not doing all that well,
UT not doing all that well,
McNeese being McNeese
and U La Mon being U La Mon
drags it down.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 3:53 pm to ktowner128
Oregon State played Boise, TCU, and Louisville out of conference. Washington played BYU, Syracuse, and Nebraska. UCLA played Kansas State, Houston, and Texas. Not saying these are football powerhouses this year, but quality out of conference opponents. Playing McNeese and ULM really hurt us, and UNC/WVU haven't exactly lit it up this year either.
EDIT: I started writing this and got distracted and hadn't realized 10 ppl had posted the same thing.
EDIT: I started writing this and got distracted and hadn't realized 10 ppl had posted the same thing.
This post was edited on 11/22/10 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 11/22/10 at 3:58 pm to Douboy
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Oregon played cream puff teams in their non-league match ups.
Tennesse is a cream puff???? LSU disagrees.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 4:09 pm to fitz1190
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1-3 and 5 are all Pac-10 teams. does that have anything to do with them being bad teams playing up? because it's oregon st., washington, UCLA, and washington st. while oregon's is 72.
Yes, a top heavy conference, like the Pac-10, will skew their bottom dwellers SOS over those from a more balanced conference like the SEC.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 4:15 pm to AbitaFan08
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LSu Strengh of Schedule
I just found a site that puts ours at 11th overall, and there's no one currently in the top 10 ranked above us.
LINK
that's the worst computer poll I've ever seen.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 4:20 pm to JPLSU1981
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JPLSU1981
Just to update your post. Here is how currently ranked teams breaks down:
Oregon (1)
#6 Stanford
Auburn (4)
#5 LSU
#12 Arkansas
#18 South Carolina
#25 Mississippi State
Boise State (1)
#16 Virginia Tech
TCU (1)
#20 Utah
LSU (3)
#2 Auburn
#11 Alabama
#25 Mississippi State
Wisconsin (3)
#8 Ohio State
#10 Michigan State
#24 Iowa
Stanford (2)
#1 Oregon
#21 Arizona
Ohio State (2)
#7 Wisconsin
#24 Iowa
Oklahoma State (2)
#15 Nebraska
#17 Texas A&M
Michigan State (2)
#7 Wisconsin
#24 Iowa
You can add two more ranked teams to Auburn's schedule by the end of the year. Although, if Auburn beats South Carolina pretty badly in the SEC Championship, they could knock them out of the top 25. You can also add two more ranked teams to Oklahoma State's schedule (assuming they make the Big 12 championship)
You can add one more ranked team to LSU, Oregon, and Boise's schedule by the end of the year.
So by the end of the season, it will be:
Auburn - 6
LSU - 4
Oklahoma State - 4
Wisconsin - 3
Oregon - 2
Boise State - 2
Stanford - 2
Ohio State - 2
Michigan State - 2
TCU - 1
This post was edited on 11/22/10 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 11/22/10 at 4:47 pm to Antonio Moss
Why doesn’t it count if we beat a ranked team if they were ranked when we beat them? College football is built on emotions. When we played them they were ranked as if they were ranked and the media ranked them. This one of many issues for ranking teams in college. Maybe it is the lose we gave them that started their descent out of the top 25??? North Carolina and Florida were both ranked when we played and beat them both. That makes 5 ranked teams and more than anyone else this year.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 4:51 pm to bengalbreaux
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Why doesn’t it count if we beat a ranked team if they were ranked when we beat them?
Who said it doesn't count?
I was just showing a break down of how it works when you use currently ranked teams (as most of the CPU polls do in evaluating SOS).
Unfortunately for college football, I don't get an actual say in the BCS.
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College football is built on emotions.
Irrelevant.
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When we played them they were ranked as if they were ranked and the media ranked them.
And now, based on their body of work, some teams are not. This works both ways. We get credit for beating a ranked Mississippi State team now even though they weren't ranked when we played them.
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That makes 5 ranked teams and more than anyone else this year.
By your criteria, we drop Mississippi State and only have four on the schedule.
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