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re: As a realist about this game...
Posted on 10/7/10 at 10:26 am to MarlinMan
Posted on 10/7/10 at 10:26 am to MarlinMan
quote:
As a realist about this game...
Offense: Florida is slightly better
Defense: LSU stronger
Special Teams: LSU better
Coaching: NOT CLOSE
Home Field Advantage/Emotion: Florida, big
Penalties: Edge to Florida
In Game Adjustments: Florida, big
Game prep and plan: Florida, small
Turnovers: wildcard
I see:
LSU-17
Florida-13
Posted on 10/7/10 at 10:26 am to MarlinMan
quote:Florida has their share of offensive woes. Better. not WAY better
Offense: Florida is way better
quote:I'm giving us the edge
Defense: about even
quote:I'll give Fla the home field advantage. But as far as emotion, this Fla team is coming off of a pretty demoralizing loss to Bama.
Home Field Advantage/Emotion: Florida, big
quote:I feel like you are pulling this out of your arse because you, and many others, believe that LSU's entire coaching staff are morons. Be objective.
Penalties: Edge to Florida In Game Adjustments: Florida, big Game prep and plan: Florida, big
All that said. We already have a "Prediction Thread"
Posted on 10/7/10 at 10:28 am to MarlinMan
While Florida's defense has been good, to this point our defense has been much more dominant. We have also played much better competition. The only good team they have played is Bama and they gave the game away early.
Our special teams is better as well, last week against UT is the only game where our special teams has not been dominant. We didn't perform well in returns or coverage last week.
Our discipline has been a problem. Penalties is what killed our offense last week. We need to correct that. Florida I would say has been better, but at the same time they are still having trouble snapping the ball.
As for coaching, it is hard to argue with that, but I don't think the gap is as big as people make it out to be.
Most likely, I think this game is similar to last year in that it will be a low scoring game. Not as low, but something like 17-13.
Florida has not shown anything to date to make me say they are significantly better than us. Their best win is against UK, who gave up 42 and lost to Ole Miss last week. They have played one good opponent and completely folded.
Our special teams is better as well, last week against UT is the only game where our special teams has not been dominant. We didn't perform well in returns or coverage last week.
Our discipline has been a problem. Penalties is what killed our offense last week. We need to correct that. Florida I would say has been better, but at the same time they are still having trouble snapping the ball.
As for coaching, it is hard to argue with that, but I don't think the gap is as big as people make it out to be.
Most likely, I think this game is similar to last year in that it will be a low scoring game. Not as low, but something like 17-13.
Florida has not shown anything to date to make me say they are significantly better than us. Their best win is against UK, who gave up 42 and lost to Ole Miss last week. They have played one good opponent and completely folded.
Posted on 10/7/10 at 10:29 am to MarlinMan
Our defense and special teams are much better. I like us 17-14
Posted on 10/7/10 at 10:30 am to MarlinMan
quote:
Offense: Florida is way better
have you watched or even read stats on florida's offense or have you just seen LSU's and assume UF has a way better offense?
Posted on 10/7/10 at 10:33 am to drexyl
quote:
agree to disagree.
THIS!!!
LSU wins this game.
Posted on 10/7/10 at 10:38 am to LSUROCKS52
Nobody is gonna confuse me with a positiger or sunshine pumper as I'm a realist. That being said I think lee plays and we win 17-10 with a late td.
As much as I am down on our offense I think we are better then them on offense when lee plays. Now coaching I think their head coach is infinitely better but I think their offensive coordinator is worse then ours which is hard to do.
As much as I am down on our offense I think we are better then them on offense when lee plays. Now coaching I think their head coach is infinitely better but I think their offensive coordinator is worse then ours which is hard to do.
Posted on 10/7/10 at 10:39 am to shinerfan
quote:
Florida's offense really, really sucks. Which makes them only slightly better than LSU's.
Exactly. Anyone who thinks Florida is "way better" on offense hasn't watched them struggle BADLY against MUCH weaker competition than we've faced (except Bama- and we all saw how that turned out for them).....Center/QB exchange follies, difficulty on 3rd down, their fanbase wanting to ax the OC now.... They're in a boat very similar to our own.....
They won't score many points on our defense. The Chief will see to that. He's got the athletes, and Florida is missing much of what they had last year....
Posted on 10/7/10 at 10:42 am to MarlinMan
quote:
Offense: Florida is way better
Defense: about even
Special Teams: about even
Coaching: NOT CLOSE
Home Field Advantage/Emotion: Florida, big
Penalties: Edge to Florida
In Game Adjustments: Florida, big
Game prep and plan: Florida, big
Turnovers: wildcard
You apparently didn't bother to review any statistics or SOS comparisons.
Offense: Passing is virtually even and LSU has a huge rushing advantage.
Defense: Not about even, not even close. Florida allows 3.7 yds/carry and over 100 yds per game.
LSU is far better on run D and a little better on passing D.
ST: Florida is not very good on punt coverage and we are among the best returning punts. Their punter is now their kicker due to a back injury.
Coaching: agree
HFA: have you been to TS this year, the Swamp will be less hostile.
Penalties: About even
Turnovers: Florida is just about leading the country in fumbles/fumbled snaps. Our D line is going to create some problems with Nevis over Pouncey.
Posted on 10/7/10 at 10:43 am to MarlinMan
Diamondhead, I didnt know you got the ghey.
Posted on 10/7/10 at 10:44 am to ccomeaux
Is UF still leading the nation in interceptions?
I believe that LSU will win, but this is still something that concerns me.
I believe that LSU will win, but this is still something that concerns me.
Posted on 10/7/10 at 10:54 am to MarlinMan
If we want to be a realist, then we must be willing to admit that Alabama's defense- which is very similar to LSU's- had their way with the Fighting Brantleys. Yes- Florida had turnovers- but don't think for a minute some weren't caused by the swarming defense that was on their arse most of the night.
I'd look for them to have a few major issues against Nevis & Company.....
I'd look for them to have a few major issues against Nevis & Company.....
Posted on 10/7/10 at 10:58 am to MarlinMan
Their offense was better last year and our defense worse, and look at the score...
This game will be low scoring and a defensive struggle, which helps LSU. Just need the offense to step up, but Urban seems to have Les and Gary's offense figured out....
Florida is nothing special this year
This game will be low scoring and a defensive struggle, which helps LSU. Just need the offense to step up, but Urban seems to have Les and Gary's offense figured out....
Florida is nothing special this year
This post was edited on 10/7/10 at 10:59 am
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:00 am to MarlinMan
quote:
As a realist about this game...
Offense: Florida is way better
Defense: about even
Special Teams: about even
Coaching: NOT CLOSE
Home Field Advantage/Emotion: Florida, big
Penalties: Edge to Florida
In Game Adjustments: Florida, big
Game prep and plan: Florida, big
Turnovers: wildcard
I see:
LSU-13
Florida-24
Disagree
Defense - Advantage LSU
Four of your categories are coaching related. I agree that if it comes down to in game coaching we are f-ed.
The way I see it
Offense - Florida, but against our D they will be bad
Defense - LSU
Special Teams - LSU (hope it comes down to FG's because their kicker sucks
Home Field advantage - Huge Florida obviously
Sadly this is a Florida team that would be ripe for the picking if we had an adequate coach.
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:01 am to Gtiger9757
quote:this
Offense: Florida is way better
I disagree, with JL, they're about even.
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:02 am to ccomeaux
quote:
You apparently didn't bother to review any statistics or SOS comparisons.
Offense: Passing is virtually even and LSU has a huge rushing advantage.
Defense: Not about even, not even close. Florida allows 3.7 yds/carry and over 100 yds per game.
LSU is far better on run D and a little better on passing D.
ST: Florida is not very good on punt coverage and we are among the best returning punts. Their punter is now their kicker due to a back injury.
Coaching: agree
HFA: have you been to TS this year, the Swamp will be less hostile.
Penalties: About even
Turnovers: Florida is just about leading the country in fumbles/fumbled snaps. Our D line is going to create some problems with Nevis over Pouncey.
Florida will be less hostile......only for Miles and JJ!!!
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:09 am to joetiger
quote:
Is UF still leading the nation in interceptions?
I believe that LSU will win, but this is still something that concerns me.
quality post
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:11 am to MarlinMan
quote:
Offense: Florida is way better
I see you have not watched much Gator football this season. I'm not sure their offense is as good as LSU's, much less "way better". I think LSU has a better rushing attack than UF, partially due to their unjuries in the backfield. Brantley is talented but does not have a better arm than Lee. Playcalling, and who is actually quarterbacking for the Tigers, will have a bigger influence on the outcome of this game than any perceived edge by either team. Prior to last week LSU had a substancial edge on strength of opponents over the Gators so stats. alone should not be utilized to gauge these two teams IMO.
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:12 am to MarlinMan
quote:
Defense: about even
I would say our defense is better. At least it was when we had Montgomery. I would also say our special teams are better.
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