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Why do we continue to run the option if it is unsuccessful?
Posted on 9/15/10 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 9/15/10 at 9:02 pm
What am I missing about GC's spread offense that seems to rely in no small way on the option, even if we do not have an option QB??
Would tosses to RR and TT not be more productive, kinda like what we did with JOJO last year, and UF did when they had Harvin??
Would tosses to RR and TT not be more productive, kinda like what we did with JOJO last year, and UF did when they had Harvin??
Posted on 9/15/10 at 9:05 pm to KnoxvilleBerryTiger
Because they think RP is at QB.
Posted on 9/15/10 at 9:06 pm to KnoxvilleBerryTiger
Same reason we didn't attempt to pass down field again after the 51yd td in Atlanta against UNC.....
Posted on 9/15/10 at 9:06 pm to KnoxvilleBerryTiger
sets up other plays.
Posted on 9/15/10 at 9:07 pm to Chrome
because everytime someone starts a thread about it they run it one more time, which by todays total equals around 65 more times.
Posted on 9/15/10 at 9:08 pm to TigerB8
Well I actually called Doug Moreaux in the Post game of the Vandy game and he said he agrees that it never works and I said that we rarely use the eye formation and it works nicely and then when it does work we get away from it he was shocked that I said this and he said uhh uhh uhhh your right great point
Posted on 9/15/10 at 9:09 pm to KnoxvilleBerryTiger
It would be more successful if JJ ran right off of the ends arse instead of bubbling it out like he does. The LB doesn't have to pick because Jefferson is within 2 yds of the pitch man
This post was edited on 9/15/10 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 9/15/10 at 9:10 pm to KnoxvilleBerryTiger
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Why do we continue to run the option if it is unsuccessful?
Simple. Because Les "enjoys" it.
Posted on 9/15/10 at 9:12 pm to emanresu
JJ does seem to bubble and not attack the line when he has it. He is mobile to be sure, but he doesn't seem comfortable with this play. Then again, in the SEC, what QB other than Twebow would be comfortable with the option?
Posted on 9/15/10 at 9:15 pm to BT
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sets up other plays.
This is the reason I think the coaches keep running it. I believe they think it is a good way to stay ahead of the chains and set up manageable down and distance scenarios routinely. Good thought.
The problem though is that Jefferson doesn't run it the right way. He is hesitant, doesn't know when to pitch and when to keep, and is not an instinctive runner. He has decent speed when he puts his head down and runs straight ahead. But he is not creative, elusive, deceptive, etc. You can see it when he scrambles too. He should use his athletic ability to scramble when things break down still looking to pass, then at the last possible second take off downfield and get positive yards.
Posted on 9/15/10 at 9:17 pm to KnoxvilleBerryTiger
because its fun to bang your head against a wall
Posted on 9/15/10 at 9:35 pm to KnoxvilleBerryTiger
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Why do we continue to run the option if it is unsuccessful?
Your statement is not supported by vision.
Posted on 9/15/10 at 9:40 pm to KnoxvilleBerryTiger
all depends on how you define success. the staff knows that JJ is limited in the passing game, most of the damage is done with underneath stuff. the threat of JJ running the option from the spread formation helps keep the defense honest, the safeties must account for the run. so you can't really judge the option by how many yards it gains on any individual play, but on what it's impact is on the offensive game as a whole...
Posted on 9/15/10 at 10:08 pm to ForeLSU
Because they think JJ is Tommy Frazier.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 1:50 pm to ForeLSU
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all depends on how you define success. the staff knows that JJ is limited in the passing game, most of the damage is done with underneath stuff. the threat of JJ running the option from the spread formation helps keep the defense honest, the safeties must account for the run. so you can't really judge the option by how many yards it gains on any individual play, but on what it's impact is on the offensive game as a whole...
Okay, your thoughts on the option play in general are valid.
But, here is what I think in our particular situation. Jefferson had one of his worst games as a Tiger last Saturday, but I wouldn't say he's limited in the passing game. Jefferson's career stats:
58 % comp rate, 2832 passing yards, 19 TDs & 9 ints
To me, a superior game plan than using the option plays (the read option & the pitch play) would be to implement what Coach Billy Gonzales was talking about all preseason. Getting the ball quickly to the receivers to let them run after the catch. IMO, our three receivers are the strength of our team - Toliver, Randle, & Shepard. I think short quick passes on early downs would be more effective at keeping us ahead of the chains in good down and distance positions, and also you have the added value of any of those three can break off a big gain at any time. So it is somewhat low risk high reward. Not to mention, quick passes eliminate the pass rush and don't involve one of Jefferson's biggest weaknesses as a QB, pocket presence.
I think we should do this early in games. It then opens up the running game, and as the defense looks to adjust to short quick passes and the run, BAM!! Throw deep! Play-action, double move pump fake stuff, there are plenty of ways to loosen up a defense.
The other reason I think this would be our best plan of attack is because of our OL. They seem to be better over last year, but they are not overly talented or physically dominant. It seems like Miles wants to try to establish a physical running game early, going back to last year as well. So i think going to the passing game early, getting our best playmakers involved, loosens up the D and makes it easier to establish the running game.
This post was edited on 9/16/10 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 9/16/10 at 1:57 pm to ForeLSU
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the threat of JJ running the option
quote:
you can't really judge the option by how many yards it gains on any individual play, but on what it's impact is on the offensive game as a whole
It obviously helped our offense last season.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 1:59 pm to Towelie
why do we have 10 post a day about the option?
Posted on 9/16/10 at 2:03 pm to BilJ
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because its fun to bang your head against a wall
Posted on 9/16/10 at 2:03 pm to dos crystal
I am not sure why they are sticking with this play either. I say replace it with the slant pass.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 2:04 pm to KnoxvilleBerryTiger
They have a want for it to work.
(in all fairness, is it just me or has Miles pulled back on the "want" talk?)
(in all fairness, is it just me or has Miles pulled back on the "want" talk?)
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