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More Shocking 2nd year Season (QB)
Posted on 8/19/10 at 8:15 am
Posted on 8/19/10 at 8:15 am
Matt Ryan vs Chad Henne
Ryan was a turnover machine in a weak conference
Henne was Mr. un-clutch and a champion of the meltdown
both had great rushing games in their rookie years (and as turner wilted, so did ryan in 2009)
seriously though, i didn't realize henne had almost 3,000 yards passing and almost a 1:1 TD/INT ratio until this morning. that may be the most amazing rookie statline of any rookie ever. we're talking about Chad Henne here
Ryan was a turnover machine in a weak conference
Henne was Mr. un-clutch and a champion of the meltdown
both had great rushing games in their rookie years (and as turner wilted, so did ryan in 2009)
seriously though, i didn't realize henne had almost 3,000 yards passing and almost a 1:1 TD/INT ratio until this morning. that may be the most amazing rookie statline of any rookie ever. we're talking about Chad Henne here
This post was edited on 8/19/10 at 8:34 am
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Posted on 8/19/10 at 8:19 am to SlowFlowPro
Henne doesn't get much respect, but he's gonna be a solid NFL QB
Posted on 8/19/10 at 8:20 am to SlowFlowPro
I'm not that shocked by Henne. He has almost every major passing record at Michigan (which is partly attributed to being a 4 year starter I think), but he has always been a good borderline great QBs. I can't remember that far back, but I don't remember looking at a Michigan loss and thinking "wow, Henne sure fricked them there".
Posted on 8/19/10 at 8:26 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:any rookie QB ever or rookie?
that may be the most amazing rookie statline of any rookie ever. we're talking about Chad Henne here
Posted on 8/19/10 at 8:27 am to Pilot Tiger
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any rookie QB ever or rookie?
any rookie ever due to it being by a QB named chad henne
Posted on 8/19/10 at 8:30 am to SlowFlowPro
Henne was a solid 4 year college starter. Not spectacular, but solid. I don't see how it's that shocking
Posted on 8/19/10 at 8:31 am to SlowFlowPro
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damn
you're making me post it
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Tressel has ALL of Michigan's number, I wouldn't put that all on Henne at all.
Posted on 8/19/10 at 8:32 am to SlowFlowPro
henne was in his 2nd year last year wasn't he?
Posted on 8/19/10 at 8:32 am to Pilot Tiger
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Henne was a solid 4 year college starter. Not spectacular, but solid. I don't see how it's that shocking
4 years experience, career passing leader, great size, seems very intelligent....agreed not really shocking.
Posted on 8/19/10 at 8:32 am to Pilot Tiger
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Henne was a solid 4 year college starter.
i can sum up henne's career at UM
does he have a guy he can just chunk it fricking DEEP to and let him do all the work? then he'll be ok
he had edwards as a freshman who he literally played jump ball with, and then super mario
when super mario got hurt, henne was pretty bad
Posted on 8/19/10 at 8:33 am to BilJ
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henne was in his 2nd year last year wasn't he?
hm, you're right
Posted on 8/19/10 at 8:33 am to SlowFlowPro
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seriously though, i didn't realize henne had almost 3,000 yards passing and almost a 1:1 TD/INT ratio until this morning. that may be the most amazing rookie statline of any rookie ever. we're talking about Chad Henne here
Epic failure on your part. Last season was Henne's second in the league, thus he wasn't a rookie.
Posted on 8/19/10 at 8:34 am to Sophandros
i already corrected it
Posted on 8/19/10 at 8:36 am to SlowFlowPro
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More Shocking Rookie Season (QB)
Matt Ryan vs Chad Henne
I think Matt Ryan's was more impressive, just because in his first year in the league, he started all 16 games and was the QB of a playoff team. That was obviously a running team, but he was solid for a rookie QB.
Henne got to sit for a year before starting, and was also on a running team (missed playoffs).
IMO Ryan will have a better career than Henne, but screw him because the Saints play him twice a year
eta: Ryan's TD/INT was 16/11 and 22/14 in '08 and '09, respectively. Damn solid for his first 2 years in the NFL. Henne's ratio was 12/14, in his first year being the starter.
Ryan did do worse in '09 and he did his rookie season, but he had the foot injury and was still comfortably ahead of the 1:1 ratio.
This post was edited on 8/19/10 at 8:39 am
Posted on 8/19/10 at 8:36 am to Pilot Tiger
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Henne was a solid 4 year college starter. Not spectacular, but solid. I don't see how it's that shocking
There's a statistical model called the Lewin Forecast that takes number of starts, career completion percentage, and change in completion percentage over time from QBs college stats to project NFL success. It's been fairly accurate, with the caveat that the current sample size is rather small. Still, it should be no surprise that Henne is a decent QB at the pro level.
Posted on 8/19/10 at 8:37 am to Boh
How does Flacco fit into this discussion? I figured he would be the worst of the three personally.
Posted on 8/19/10 at 8:37 am to SlowFlowPro
Just saw that.
You know I like busting your chops, man.
You know I like busting your chops, man.
Posted on 8/19/10 at 8:38 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:had edwards not been mr. butterfingers, Henne's number would have been EVEN BETTER. He was very inconsistent
he had edwards as a freshman who he literally played jump ball with, and then super mario
come on man. Big time schools with pro style offenses are going to have playmaker WR's. Don't fault Henne for that. Didn't he start as a true freshman??
Posted on 8/19/10 at 8:40 am to SprintFun
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How does Flacco fit into this discussion?
hard to really throw him in just b/c he played 1AA ball
i still laugh that he transferred b/c of tyler palko, the saints board savior
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