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Greg Lemond comes out against Lance.
Posted on 7/20/10 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 7/20/10 at 1:57 pm
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Posted on 7/20/10 at 1:59 pm to hawkeye007
lemond has been blasting armstrong for years
Posted on 7/20/10 at 2:00 pm to hawkeye007
Aren't you innocent until proven guilty?
Posted on 7/20/10 at 2:05 pm to The Sad Banana
lemond had been blasting landis.
AFG: this is TD you are guilty until proven innocent.
AFG: this is TD you are guilty until proven innocent.
Posted on 7/20/10 at 2:07 pm to hawkeye007
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but this is a 360 from lemond.
so the same position again?
Posted on 7/20/10 at 2:08 pm to H-Town Tiger
Think he meant 180...
Posted on 7/20/10 at 2:08 pm to The Sad Banana
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Aren't you innocent until proven guilty
in a court of law. Greg Lemond has no power to throw anyone in jail, there fore he does not have to adhere to the same standard. He if is blantanly lying, he can be sued for liable.
This post was edited on 7/20/10 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 7/20/10 at 2:10 pm to hawkeye007
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"I think the level of detail, the descriptions, I think it rings true."
I could come up with a detailed, descriptive story that could make it sound like Santa was on the grassy knoll in Dallas.
Posted on 7/20/10 at 2:14 pm to hawkeye007
Lemond has been firing barbs at Lance for a long time - not sure how you missed that before now
Posted on 7/20/10 at 2:15 pm to RummelTiger
so you think lance is clean and was clean during the his tour victorys?
Posted on 7/20/10 at 2:16 pm to hawkeye007
No, LeMond has hated Lance for over a decade. This fued is not new.
Posted on 7/20/10 at 2:19 pm to Baloo
i guessed i missed it.
Posted on 7/20/10 at 2:20 pm to hawkeye007
"lemond had been blasting landis"
lemond has been blasting armstrong for just about the whole decade
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lemond has been blasting armstrong for just about the whole decade
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Posted on 7/20/10 at 2:20 pm to hawkeye007
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so you think lance is clean and was clean during the his tour victorys?
Yes, and yes.
Posted on 7/20/10 at 2:23 pm to LSUMJ
frick LeMond...
His shorts are all in a bunch because he's no longer the King of American cycling.
Armstrong did what he could never do - create excitement here about cycling. The sport grew exponentially due to Armstrong's success - I think that's what has gotten to him the most.
That...and his uncle.
His shorts are all in a bunch because he's no longer the King of American cycling.
Armstrong did what he could never do - create excitement here about cycling. The sport grew exponentially due to Armstrong's success - I think that's what has gotten to him the most.
That...and his uncle.
Posted on 7/20/10 at 2:43 pm to RummelTiger
i think he was dirty. maybe its just me loosing faith in most people in sports being honest about steriods in any form.
Posted on 7/20/10 at 2:44 pm to hawkeye007
Lemond has been a bitch for years about Lance
Posted on 7/20/10 at 2:45 pm to hawkeye007
quote:I think it's possible. But, given the context and the sport he was in where EVERYBODY was fricking juicing, I don't care if he did dope.
so you think lance is clean and was clean during the his tour victorys?
The dude came back from nut cancer and dominated the sport like nobody had in history--all while stickin it to those Frenchies. The other riders were juicing and couldn't touch this man who rose off his death bed to come all the way back from the brink. He's an American hero.
Posted on 7/20/10 at 2:50 pm to Jamohn
i am with you i really dont care if he did . its kind of like busting on a baseball player for juicing in late 90's.
Posted on 7/20/10 at 2:52 pm to Jamohn
I don't much like Lance. I think he's an arrogant douchebag who spent a good portion of his career bullying the peloton. I'm a cycling fan, but I don't love Lance. I tend to like the crazed climbers than the methodical planners. Give me Chiappucci, not Indurain. I know tactical guys tend to win, but God they are boring. I like a little panache.
OK, so that said, I think it is probable Lance blood doped like every other cyclist in the pro circuit. He was still awesome. I also believe that LeMond has probably done his share of questionable doping, given that doping in cycling goes back decades. Hell, Eddy Merckx is fairly open about using speed. If LeMond expects me to believe for one second that he raced in the only era of clean cycling,and won three Tours, then he's sorely mistaken.
I don't care. Blood doping is so complex that I'm not even that outraged by it. It's not steroids, it's essentially injecting oxygen in your blood. Lance did not win because he had the best chemist. He won because he was the best cyclist by a fairly wide margin.
OK, so that said, I think it is probable Lance blood doped like every other cyclist in the pro circuit. He was still awesome. I also believe that LeMond has probably done his share of questionable doping, given that doping in cycling goes back decades. Hell, Eddy Merckx is fairly open about using speed. If LeMond expects me to believe for one second that he raced in the only era of clean cycling,and won three Tours, then he's sorely mistaken.
I don't care. Blood doping is so complex that I'm not even that outraged by it. It's not steroids, it's essentially injecting oxygen in your blood. Lance did not win because he had the best chemist. He won because he was the best cyclist by a fairly wide margin.
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