"Icelike" crystals

frozen methane.

i'd imagine the next idea is to take the ROV that was injecting dispersant at the wellhead and use it to inject something inside the box to keep it from freezing up but i have no idea what exactly that would be

of course. thanks guys.

Would you prefer antifreeze or crude oil?

quote:

---

Would you prefer antifreeze or crude oil?

---

Probably crude oil, but why not put in a heat exchanger instead? I know time is not on their side, but it would seem like the better option.

if you read the description of the cause of the bubble, it was these same crystals which caused the incident.

So I am guessing maybe "heat coils" are whatever else that my generate that type of heat may also possibly cause an explosion? It would almost have to be some type of antifreeze?

Folks, some of you are reacting to the ecological implications of the word antifreeze being used. In connotation, you are thinking is the one specifically used in cars (ethylene glycol) and the associated toxicity.

But the term was intended literally, any additive that lowers the freezing point significantly (any solute lowers the freezing point of water, this is why they salt icy roads and sidewalks).

The two first candidates that pops to mind are are propylene glycol and polyethylene glycol, both of which I would have zero reservations about ingesting myself and in the case of the latter, I have actually drunk a decently concentrated solution containing 20-30% of PEG by the gallon.

Edit: actually the more I think of it, the more I think PEG is the likelist suspect. It imparts a high density to the water solution so they won't have to fight diffusion as much, and I know it is an effective antifreeze because I've used it as a cryoprotectant/stabilizer when I needed a biological sample to stay liquid in spite of the LO2 vapor I was pumping on it to keep it cold.

I saw where the sea floor temp is 42 degrees F. They were planning to add methanol to the box to prevent this from happening. Not sure what happened to that plan.

I'm in Houma at the EOC working the boom management team for the LANG.

Methanol will be injected into the system in the coming hours to see if we can't get this thing to work. If not, another containment system is being built. I will update on the issue as I get news.

This whole board is filled with so much god damn STUPID that it makes me want to frickING throw up!

None of you fricking idiots who think you have a clue what you're talking about know shite.

The "icelike crystals" are hydrates, they're inhibited with methanol or LDHI. And are dissolved with either a reduction inpressure or an increase in temperature.

frick!