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What does the Saints D have to do, to slow down the Arizona O ?
Posted on 1/10/10 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 1/10/10 at 10:25 pm
Please give detailed X's and O's ( Including player match ups )
Posted on 1/10/10 at 10:29 pm to adil91
Saints D is finally healthy except for Grant (hopefully). If we can put points on the board I think we'll have a good chance for some turnovers.
Posted on 1/10/10 at 10:30 pm to LakeViewLSU
im not sure we will
we're going to need our defense to go back to pressuring warner and creating turnovers.
we do that and i think we win, because arizona should have no shot at slowing us down
we're going to need our defense to go back to pressuring warner and creating turnovers.
we do that and i think we win, because arizona should have no shot at slowing us down
Posted on 1/10/10 at 10:30 pm to LakeViewLSU
Call Mike Singletary and figure out how the 49ers completely dominated the Cardinals a few weeks ago, sacking Warner 4 times and intercepting him twice.
Posted on 1/10/10 at 10:31 pm to LakeViewLSU
They need to get to Warner. Warner can be a turnover machine with pressure in his face.
If they don't it's going to be a shootout.
If they don't it's going to be a shootout.
Posted on 1/10/10 at 10:32 pm to LakeViewLSU
Warner was throwing all night to the middle of the field , they had great success with that , I'm sure saints were takin notes
Posted on 1/10/10 at 10:33 pm to moneyg
yup
i think warner more so than any other QB in the league depends on good protection. when he has it, hes just about unstoppable, when he doesnt, he struggles a lot
i think warner more so than any other QB in the league depends on good protection. when he has it, hes just about unstoppable, when he doesnt, he struggles a lot
Posted on 1/10/10 at 10:41 pm to LakeViewLSU
alright, detailed X's and O's (you ready?)
1. Mr. Warner
In a 3WR set, Warner in shotgun, hightower in with him in the backfield: if I'm Williams, I just rush 3 lineman and one linebacker, run a 335 or something similar (although I'd like to have 6dbs out there). If you can't at least rush Warner a tad with that, start sending Roman Harper SPECIFICALLY...or Malcolm Jenkins. Take someone who can't cover worth a shite.
In 4 wides, repeat process, just with 6-7 dbs. Speed, to me, is the key.
2 wr sets, for chrissakes, if I see williams run another "over" set in a 43 or 46, I'm going to strangle him. It never works, we don't tackle well out of it, and I'm telling you if he does it we get gashed, period.
I'll spare you the rest, use your imagination.
2. Beanie Wells formations
Assume he's running it, I dont' care if it's PA. You make sure you tell Sedrick and Vilma to hone in on that guy and pummel him to the ground if he's in the game. If blitzing linebackers, you communicate that no matter what happens, you make sure Beanie ends up on his arse, even if you don't get to Kurt. tell wells you mean business.
3. Larry Fitz, Boldin (if there), Breaston, Doucet.
DON'T BRACKET FITZ. I hate teams who do this. It eats two corners, a safety and a corner, or a linebacker and a corner depending on the situation. It's stupid, never works, and leaves everyone else ridiculously open. If you ask me, you let Larry get his when he does, but you have to TACKLE him.
Boldin (or Breaston/Doucet if they play his spot) is a problem, but you have to give him (and Fitz) real big shoves in the first five yards, since Warner relies on timing.
4. the O line of Arizona.
Arizona has this issue on the offensive line, and if you watched the 49ers game, you should know what this is: Athletic lineman. They eat up the big boys pretty easy, but the athletic guys they have issues with. If I'm Williams, I run some serious deep stunts and tell Spicer to keep himself in front of Warner.
Will Smith is the key here. He's the most athletic guy we have on the line, and I see him having a big day IF he doesn't get caught up running like Alem 19 yards past the QB. I say we do something novel though, if I may:
On 4 wide sets, I'd like to see Greg throw in this group of linemen (he wont', but it's something I'd try): McCray, Smith, Spicer, and...take your pick of an OLB at DE. I think this would give the Cardinals absolute FITS on passing downs.
That's just me. What say you?
1. Mr. Warner
In a 3WR set, Warner in shotgun, hightower in with him in the backfield: if I'm Williams, I just rush 3 lineman and one linebacker, run a 335 or something similar (although I'd like to have 6dbs out there). If you can't at least rush Warner a tad with that, start sending Roman Harper SPECIFICALLY...or Malcolm Jenkins. Take someone who can't cover worth a shite.
In 4 wides, repeat process, just with 6-7 dbs. Speed, to me, is the key.
2 wr sets, for chrissakes, if I see williams run another "over" set in a 43 or 46, I'm going to strangle him. It never works, we don't tackle well out of it, and I'm telling you if he does it we get gashed, period.
I'll spare you the rest, use your imagination.
2. Beanie Wells formations
Assume he's running it, I dont' care if it's PA. You make sure you tell Sedrick and Vilma to hone in on that guy and pummel him to the ground if he's in the game. If blitzing linebackers, you communicate that no matter what happens, you make sure Beanie ends up on his arse, even if you don't get to Kurt. tell wells you mean business.
3. Larry Fitz, Boldin (if there), Breaston, Doucet.
DON'T BRACKET FITZ. I hate teams who do this. It eats two corners, a safety and a corner, or a linebacker and a corner depending on the situation. It's stupid, never works, and leaves everyone else ridiculously open. If you ask me, you let Larry get his when he does, but you have to TACKLE him.
Boldin (or Breaston/Doucet if they play his spot) is a problem, but you have to give him (and Fitz) real big shoves in the first five yards, since Warner relies on timing.
4. the O line of Arizona.
Arizona has this issue on the offensive line, and if you watched the 49ers game, you should know what this is: Athletic lineman. They eat up the big boys pretty easy, but the athletic guys they have issues with. If I'm Williams, I run some serious deep stunts and tell Spicer to keep himself in front of Warner.
Will Smith is the key here. He's the most athletic guy we have on the line, and I see him having a big day IF he doesn't get caught up running like Alem 19 yards past the QB. I say we do something novel though, if I may:
On 4 wide sets, I'd like to see Greg throw in this group of linemen (he wont', but it's something I'd try): McCray, Smith, Spicer, and...take your pick of an OLB at DE. I think this would give the Cardinals absolute FITS on passing downs.
That's just me. What say you?
Posted on 1/10/10 at 10:42 pm to DBG
Well the obvious answer...get pressure on Warner because he is turnerover prone when he gets rushed. What I noticed today was that they didn't take many deep shots down the field. A lot of short passes to his receivers either short of the 1st down marker or about 5 yards past the marker. Also he dumped off some passes to the RB's. More so to Hightower than Beanie I believe.
Posted on 1/11/10 at 6:51 am to Northwestern tiger
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Warner was throwing all night to the middle of the field
Darren Sharper's territory!!!!!!
Posted on 1/11/10 at 7:47 am to goatmilker
Hope Warner doesn't play.
Posted on 1/11/10 at 8:04 am to guttata
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Hope Warner doesn't play.
you're like me and hoping that he retires this week?
Posted on 1/11/10 at 8:20 am to LakeViewLSU
Saints need to tackle better than they have been. The Cardinals live off of YAC.
Also, the front 4 have to play well. They need to get consistent pressure. When GW does bring the blitz the players have to get to Warner, because if not the "standing statue" will pick us apart.
Also, the front 4 have to play well. They need to get consistent pressure. When GW does bring the blitz the players have to get to Warner, because if not the "standing statue" will pick us apart.
Posted on 1/11/10 at 8:24 am to CM84
Start with pressure.
Rely on Porter and Greer in man-coverage.
Let Sharper do his thing.
And tackle.
Rely on Porter and Greer in man-coverage.
Let Sharper do his thing.
And tackle.
Posted on 1/11/10 at 9:06 am to LakeViewLSU
dont's give up any YAC or big plays
Posted on 1/11/10 at 9:08 am to Neauxla
Our corners need to be physical with the WR's at the LOS with Fitz, Breaston, and Boldin if he plays. Be smart but play aggressive... turnovers will be key. We need to put the heat on warner, not necessarily a lot of sacks but force bad throws and untimely throws.
Posted on 1/11/10 at 9:26 am to Chad504boy
Against the pass:
We Alot of pressure up the middle mainly from the D-line, & hands up in the passing lanes.
Physical/Solid Man coverage from the CBs, good jam at the line.
Delayed blitzes up the middle, rather than the corners. We need our Secondary in coverage & laying the wood on those WRs. (If we blitz our DBs, let it be Jenkins or Harper).
All the above will disrupt the timing
We Alot of pressure up the middle mainly from the D-line, & hands up in the passing lanes.
Physical/Solid Man coverage from the CBs, good jam at the line.
Delayed blitzes up the middle, rather than the corners. We need our Secondary in coverage & laying the wood on those WRs. (If we blitz our DBs, let it be Jenkins or Harper).
All the above will disrupt the timing
Posted on 1/11/10 at 9:29 am to saintsrow
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saintsrow
Excellent analysis.
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