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re: Should Joe Barksdale be benched??? ( no attacks, please )
Posted on 12/17/09 at 4:28 pm to Ponchy Tiger
Posted on 12/17/09 at 4:28 pm to Ponchy Tiger
I don't know if I'd definitely bench him.
I'd sit down with him and discuss the issue with him. If he has an explaination, then I'd make him address the team. The guy is going to be a senior next year. He's going to have to be a leader. Now would be the time to start.
If he doesn't have a good explaination or is unwilling to address the team, then you know that he's a cancer. I'd play him for the bowl game and then give the young guys every chance possible to take the position next year.
I'd sit down with him and discuss the issue with him. If he has an explaination, then I'd make him address the team. The guy is going to be a senior next year. He's going to have to be a leader. Now would be the time to start.
If he doesn't have a good explaination or is unwilling to address the team, then you know that he's a cancer. I'd play him for the bowl game and then give the young guys every chance possible to take the position next year.
Posted on 12/17/09 at 4:28 pm to Ponchy Tiger
No. He is our best lineman, on a very weak line. He is questioning his decision to play so far from his home. I don't think he ever expressed a lack of commitment to the team or desire to play.
Posted on 12/17/09 at 4:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
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for this? hell no
Thats exactly whats wrong with things these days. ppl are not held responsible for their actions. He proved with his statement that he has no committment to his teammates or coaches. I will not attack his play because I don't see practice and don't know if his back up is better.
Posted on 12/17/09 at 4:29 pm to Ponchy Tiger
NO
Quit believeing everything you read on the internet.
Quit believeing everything you read on the internet.
Posted on 12/17/09 at 4:30 pm to TIEF
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How do you know what has happened to him since he has been in BR? What do you know about his personal life?
C'mon man..........I refuse to cry for him.
Free education
3 yr. starter
National Championship
probable late 1st round draft pick.....
and on his way out the door, he posts that crap.
I don't care how young or tender or emotional he is. He had damn well grow up fast because the NFL is on his horizon. Time to at least act like a man.
Posted on 12/17/09 at 4:30 pm to LSUfan4444
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that doesn't mean it was the right thing to do,
i don't see how it's wrong
and at this point, right or wrong, it's out there. nothing can be done to change his mind or un-say what he said
punishing him only will exacerbate the situation and create more turmoil on a program full of it the past 30 months
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if you don't think he is ashamed at all you are out of your mind
i seriously doubt he is ashamed
he did nothing to be ashamed of
Posted on 12/17/09 at 4:31 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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ppl are not held responsible for their actions
he didn't do anything except tell the world how he feels
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He proved with his statement that he has no committment to his teammates or coaches.
that's not guaranteed to be true
Posted on 12/17/09 at 4:33 pm to ELVIS U
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I don't think he ever expressed a lack of commitment to the team or desire to play.
coming to LSU was the biggest mistake of my life.
The fact is his heart isn't here. If it isn't there is no way he can give his best effort and be committed to the team. Therefore he should be bench atleast for the bowl. Then the coaches can evaluate things in the spring and see how it goes.
Posted on 12/17/09 at 4:33 pm to ELVIS U
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He is our best lineman, on a very weak line.
No. Black is our best lineman. Dworacyzk our second best by default. The other three are just awful.
Posted on 12/17/09 at 4:34 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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How do you know what has happened to him since he has been in BR? What do you know about his personal life?
C'mon man..........I refuse to cry for him.
Free education
3 yr. starter
National Championship
probable late 1st round draft pick.....
and on his way out the door, he posts that crap.
I don't care how young or tender or emotional he is. He had damn well grow up fast because the NFL is on his horizon. Time to at least act like a man.
He should not of posted that, but him not liking it at LSU, he should not be criticized for that...
Posted on 12/17/09 at 4:34 pm to Ponchy Tiger
I think the right thing to do is have his coaches sit down with him and evaluate his issues and try to help the kid feel better about being at school. He took a big leap of coming to BR and also he may think being switched to OLine is not what he had planned. I'm not sure why he ended up on the OLine. He was a DT and he appears to be string an athletic enough to play that position if that is what he is comfortable with.
Posted on 12/17/09 at 4:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
It seems like a majority of the people in this thread are not familiar at all with the behavior of college athletes. D-1 athletics isn't the military in 1950. Many coaches have heard "frick you" in return from players after a simple command.
This post was edited on 12/17/09 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 12/17/09 at 4:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
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that's not guaranteed to be true
and its not guaranteed that its not either. Therefore he should have to prove that this was just a mistake.
Posted on 12/17/09 at 4:36 pm to Keys Open Doors
i heard a story about that this year, but i don't believe it
Posted on 12/17/09 at 4:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i don't see how it's wrong
i think you do, you're just playing devils advocate on the rant
you can't believe it isn't wrong for high profile college players to go on public forums/networking sites and express negative feelings about their university. whether it is their feelings, or whatever. i know you don't believe that is the right thing to do.
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punishing him only will exacerbate the situation and create more turmoil on a program full of it the past 30 months
he wouldn't be punished for having the feelings. he wouldn't be punished for being homesick. he would be punished for putting it on twitter. which, LSU has been pretty leniant on to date.
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i seriously doubt he is ashamed
he did nothing to be ashamed of
ashamed, embrassed, regretful, humilated, apologetic...they're all synonyms. i'm not arguing the validity of each synonym
Posted on 12/17/09 at 4:38 pm to LSUfan4444
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i think you do, you're just playing devils advocate on the rant
not at all
could he have been more tactful? sure
do i get the feeling the team knows how he felt long before this post? definitely
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negative feelings about their university
he has negative feelings about his decision. in no way did he demean LSU
Posted on 12/17/09 at 4:39 pm to TIEF
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He should not of posted that, but him not liking it at LSU, he should not be criticized for that...
exactly my feelings......peoples likes and dislikes are often beyond their control. How they react to those (posting on FB) is within their control. Mature people who are about to enter the NFL draft and ask organizations to risk millions on them do themselves no good by posting this.
Posted on 12/17/09 at 4:40 pm to ColtsTigers
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Black is our best lineman.
yes, and then Barksdale.
Posted on 12/17/09 at 4:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
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he has negative feelings about his decision. in no way did he demean LSU
by making it public he did
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