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Question about next year's O-Line.

Posted on 12/8/09 at 9:14 pm
Posted by ag4LSU21
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
305 posts
Posted on 12/8/09 at 9:14 pm
After a regular season with a disappointing o-line, what is there to expect with next season's o-line? I know the middle three were usually much smaller than the guys they faced across the line, so will we remain an undersized line? Who is predicted to be new starters next year? And finally, do you feel confident in next year's line? Thanks for your input.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
42959 posts
Posted on 12/8/09 at 9:16 pm to
Well, we'll be losing a 1st team All-SEC selection that has started more games at LT than anyone in LSU history for starters.

With the way the line looked this year, I don't know how anyone can honestly think it's going to be better next season.
This post was edited on 12/8/09 at 9:17 pm
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34381 posts
Posted on 12/8/09 at 9:17 pm to
Miles was an Olineman so we'll be fine.
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30189 posts
Posted on 12/8/09 at 9:21 pm to
Two Words: Chris Faulk


He's no Hermann Johnson, but he'll never be labeled "undersized" by a longshot.
Posted by wryder1
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2008
4627 posts
Posted on 12/8/09 at 9:29 pm to
We will have the size:
Barksdale
Hardrick
Faulk
Blackwell
Shaw
Longeran

All these guys are over 300lbs. Yes, most of them are tackles but they can be moved inside if needed. If not, Dworaczyk will be bigger as well as Parsons.
The line will be alot bigger next year but it will have a few new guys there too. I think the line will be alot better next year, especially if Miles gets a new Oline coach.
Posted by Roberteaux
mandeville
Member since Sep 2009
6134 posts
Posted on 12/8/09 at 9:32 pm to
my boy jermarcus better start...
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59725 posts
Posted on 12/8/09 at 9:55 pm to
quote:

With the way the line looked this year, I don't know how anyone can honestly think it's going to be better next season.


It can't get any worse.

The hope is that between Hardrick, Faulk, Shaw at least 2 of the spots are upgraded. I am also hopeful that we will be better coached on the line.

Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 12/8/09 at 9:58 pm to
quote:

And finally, do you feel confident in next year's line?


Yes. It's crazy to think that the O-line will not be much better next year. We've got tons of young pups in the pipeline, and they will be competing like hell amongst each other next spring and summer.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
42959 posts
Posted on 12/8/09 at 9:59 pm to
I'd like to think so, because it's hard for me to assume improvement next season when in all actuality we are replacing more next season than we had to this past season.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452754 posts
Posted on 12/8/09 at 9:59 pm to
next year is when we start to feel the effects of attrition
Posted by tigabait01
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
4795 posts
Posted on 12/8/09 at 10:02 pm to
The attrition was felt this year. However, next year we'll just replace Hitt with blackwell and black with faulk. Hebert, dworaczyk, and barksdale will still start an play 99% of the snaps
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 12/8/09 at 10:10 pm to
We switched to a zone blocking scheme this year. Maybe we will ditch it or maybe another year will help the players. Pass protection really wasn't as bad as people make it sound. JJ just needs to learn to throw the ball away.
Posted by craignettles
Member since Jan 2005
3294 posts
Posted on 12/8/09 at 10:11 pm to
Did you forget about Alex Hurst? He may be the best of the linemen and is not small.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
42959 posts
Posted on 12/8/09 at 10:17 pm to
quote:

Pass protection really wasn't as bad as people make it sound. JJ just needs to learn to throw the ball away.

Or JJ doesn't need to have his OC call non-pa 7 step drops with 4 deep routes and no safety when JJ has the propensity to hold the ball and take sacks.

Strengths v. weaknesses. Utilize your players strengths, try to hide their weaknesses. Our coaching staff is a complete FAIL in that regard.
Posted by EasyE
Metairie
Member since Mar 2006
350 posts
Posted on 12/8/09 at 10:22 pm to
"next year we will feel the effects of attrition"

i think 2 linemen on the 2 deep chart leave, 1 jc guy comes in, as will 4 were redshirt fr. the last 2 years it was felt.

did i miss something?
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
42959 posts
Posted on 12/8/09 at 10:25 pm to
quote:

i think 2 linemen on the 2 deep chart leave

We have to replace the all team leader in career starts at LSU. Furthermore, many fans think he was coached down and stunk it up this year as it is. Yet, he started for 4 years and now needs to be replaced by someone else that will be coached ???.
Posted by EasyE
Metairie
Member since Mar 2006
350 posts
Posted on 12/8/09 at 10:27 pm to
my point was the affect of attrition is not getting worse from here on. it had nothing to do with team leaders
Posted by seinfeldtiger
San Diego
Member since Sep 2009
1720 posts
Posted on 12/8/09 at 10:29 pm to
it will be the best offenseive line Les Miles has ever had..
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 12/8/09 at 10:30 pm to
quote:

Or JJ doesn't need to have his OC call non-pa 7 step drops with 4 deep routes and no safety when JJ has the propensity to hold the ball and take sacks.


Or JJ can throw the ball away when there isn't anyone open. Not going to argue that the play calling is bad, but it's not like there are people in his face constantly when he finishes his drop back. He gets plenty of time to make decisions, he just decides to dance around too much.
Posted by LSUtigahs28
Member since Sep 2008
14561 posts
Posted on 12/8/09 at 10:34 pm to
We theoretically could upgrade in size based on general yearly growth or new players, but there is no reason to believe technique and fundamentals will improve.

Additionally everyone is counting on some new blood, but

1) Its unknown how these guys will actually perform in game. They might be bigger, but they could at the same time be worse

2) Even if they come in and replace multiple guys on the line we will lack experience and the cohesion that comes with playing OLine as a unit.

TBH I think we could improve greatly on the OLine with a new coach, but I don't know if this will happen.
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