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re: Here is what the "Wizard" Gary Crowton has done at LSU
Posted on 11/17/09 at 8:27 am to SPEEDY
Posted on 11/17/09 at 8:27 am to SPEEDY
2009-Potentially worst O-Line I've seen at LSU.Look at the drop off in the rushing game. When you can't run the ball you are in deep trouble. Biggest drop off is in running game.
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Posted on 11/17/09 at 8:28 am to SlowFlowPro
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dude
we're around 110th in the nation in total offense
think about that
Dude, we are well below average at OL and QB.
In other words, we can run the ball and have a QB who hasn't been able to make plays at this stage of his career. That's the worst of both worlds.
think about that
Do you really think the 107 ranking is primarily due to coaching?
Posted on 11/17/09 at 8:29 am to Tigerik
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How many games did the Bama QB start last year.
Answer = none! 0
Yeah, but he's a redshirt Junior. That matters a lot.
Posted on 11/17/09 at 8:32 am to Titan
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We need someone who can run a spread offense
crowton USED to run a badass spread
he tries to add too much to his offense
namely stuff he really doesn't' understand, like the option
Posted on 11/17/09 at 8:32 am to Doc Fenton
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Apparently T-Bob Hebert and Josh Dworaczyk are the worst O-linemen in the history of CFB, and are totally responsible for the dropoff in rushing yards this season.
Not totally but they are part of the problem. T-Bob gets blown up on just about every play. That is a fact.
Posted on 11/17/09 at 8:33 am to Coach in Waiting
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When plays don't work, he keeps running them. If they work, he never runs them again.
It seems like he wants to run plays he did with Rattay at Tech and make them work, even though they aren't working at LSU. GC has got ta go.
Posted on 11/17/09 at 8:34 am to moneyg
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Dude, we are well below average at OL and QB.
so is UGA, who is starting an inexperienced QB without talent. they also have 1 really good WR and a bunch of guys
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Do you really think the 107 ranking is primarily due to coaching?
yes
horrible OL development and personnel choices and shaky QB development will do that
it's primarily coaching and secondarily recruiting
Posted on 11/17/09 at 8:36 am to SlowFlowPro
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horrible OL development and personnel choices and shaky QB development will do that
So, let's be clear.
You are blaming Crowton for the OL development, QB development (of a freshman) and recruiting...not necessarily the scheme or playcalling. Correct?
Posted on 11/17/09 at 8:37 am to Ethan Martin
Putting this all on the QBs is weak-minded and dishonest. Better coaching and playcalling could emphasize JJ's strengths and mask his weaknesses. Also, there's this thing called QB development, where coaches are supposed to help their talent progress and get better. We have none of that right now.
Posted on 11/17/09 at 8:38 am to moneyg
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You are blaming Crowton for the OL development, QB development (of a freshman) and recruiting
no
i said the development and scheme were primarily responsible, and recruiting was secondary
crowton is not a good developer of QBs. he's never proven he could develop a QB. i do blame him for the lack of QB preparation/development directly
the recruiting is on miles
crowton did want small, agile, fast OL for his spread offense, and that was a bad, bad choice
Posted on 11/17/09 at 8:38 am to moneyg
Yes, it is his fault. As the OC, Crowton is in charge of all things on the offense.
Posted on 11/17/09 at 8:38 am to SlowFlowPro
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so is UGA, who is starting an inexperienced QB without talent. they also have 1 really good WR and a bunch of guys
Furthermore, you believe that Mike Bobo is a better OC than Gary Crowton. Correct?
Posted on 11/17/09 at 8:39 am to moneyg
i would take bobo with our peronnel over crowton
Posted on 11/17/09 at 8:40 am to SlowFlowPro
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crowton did want small, agile, fast OL for his spread offense, and that was a bad, bad choice
I hsdn't read that. Can you link me to that, or at least reference where you heard it?
Posted on 11/17/09 at 8:42 am to moneyg
yes there is no correlation in crowton becomming our OC and LSU recruiting smaller, more agile OL
Posted on 11/17/09 at 8:42 am to LSUnowhas2
I totally agree with you. In the 98 yd. drive Lonergan was at center & Blackwell was at guard. Lonergan replaced T-Bob & Miles raved about his play. He was running ahead of T-Bob during fall practice then all of a sudden T-Bob starts. T-Bob should be the backup & Blackwell should be in for Dworaczyk.
Posted on 11/17/09 at 8:43 am to aglandry
i think PJ has trouble with shotgun snaps, which is crucial for our hybrid spread
blackwell has outshined josh D, who looked good at LT (he has an LT body...very tall and lean. not much of a road grader)
blackwell has outshined josh D, who looked good at LT (he has an LT body...very tall and lean. not much of a road grader)
Posted on 11/17/09 at 8:50 am to SlowFlowPro
I think Crowton just seriously lacks imagination in play calling - and a lot of the play calls just don't make sense. His choice of personnel touching the ball, likewise, makes little sense. He might be fine somewhere like Southeastern, but Crowton will NEVER be capable of coaching at this level. Just my opinion.
It's not just the QB, or just the O-line, it's the whole package. The guys aren't clicking and they're frustrated - that's all Crowton and Les - no excuses.
It's not just the QB, or just the O-line, it's the whole package. The guys aren't clicking and they're frustrated - that's all Crowton and Les - no excuses.
Posted on 11/17/09 at 8:54 am to SlowFlowPro
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yes there is no correlation in crowton becomming our OC and LSU recruiting smaller, more agile OL
Correlation doesn't equal causation. In fact, we signed a few big guys last year and a couple already this year.
Your previous post was stated as if this was reported somewhere. Apparently it was just your assumption.
Posted on 11/17/09 at 9:02 am to SlowFlowPro
I don't know if Lonergan has problems snapping the ball but I know on the 98 yd drive they ran the ball well and against La Tech the same thing. Didn't see any bad snaps the times he has been at center. Only saw our running game work when Lonergan & Blackwell are part of the O-Line.Miles has praised both BLACKWELL & LONERGAN for their play in games this year. Makes you wonder why they aren't playing as starters.
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