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re: In defense of Pam and Jim...
Posted on 10/8/09 at 10:23 pm to hashtag
Posted on 10/8/09 at 10:23 pm to hashtag
Wow, I couldn't disagree with this thread more.
First of all, if you use the phrase "jumpe the shark," then you should shoot yourself (that's not necessarily to this thread, just in general).
Pointing to babies killing tv shows is simply laughable. What kills shows is that they just aren't popular forever. People on the shows hooking up, getting married, or having babies is not what kills shows and creates less interest...time is. Characters getting together or having kids is just a natural progression of life, so of course it's eventually gonna make its way into storylines on most shows. It just so happens that it usually happens when the show is on the decline.
Almost every "most popular ever" show has had its decline. It's just because people's tastes change, and the show/characters eventually get old/stale.
Tonight's Office was one of the best in a long time. That shows right there that it can still be solid despite JIm and Pam getting married or being pregnant.
This thread is hilarious.
First of all, if you use the phrase "jumpe the shark," then you should shoot yourself (that's not necessarily to this thread, just in general).
Pointing to babies killing tv shows is simply laughable. What kills shows is that they just aren't popular forever. People on the shows hooking up, getting married, or having babies is not what kills shows and creates less interest...time is. Characters getting together or having kids is just a natural progression of life, so of course it's eventually gonna make its way into storylines on most shows. It just so happens that it usually happens when the show is on the decline.
Almost every "most popular ever" show has had its decline. It's just because people's tastes change, and the show/characters eventually get old/stale.
Tonight's Office was one of the best in a long time. That shows right there that it can still be solid despite JIm and Pam getting married or being pregnant.
This thread is hilarious.
This post was edited on 10/8/09 at 10:35 pm
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Posted on 10/8/09 at 10:28 pm to CocomoLSU
Totally agree with you cocomo
Posted on 10/9/09 at 9:01 am to CocomoLSU
Oh God... I agree with cocomo. Where's the gun?
Posted on 10/9/09 at 10:22 am to CocomoLSU
quote:
"jumpe the shark,"
Is Jumpe a Spanish shark?
This post was edited on 10/9/09 at 10:23 am
Posted on 10/9/09 at 10:54 am to CocomoLSU
Cocomo, I agree with your post, but I think that this wedding special demanded a lot of attention from the writers. I wouldn't be surprised if this was their highest rated episode of all time, so the writers definitely put in a lot more effort for this week's show than usual, and that would definitely have an impact on how funny the show was last night.
However, I like how the show lets the characters evolve. To me, that's much funnier than seeing the same kinds of bits over and over again. That made Seinfeld kind of boring for me, even when I was in middle school. In the Office, some of the characters change, and that freshens up the show.
Of course, David Wallace, Creed, Meredith, Kelly, and the Nard Dog stay the same, but others have changed a lot over the past couple of years. I loved watching Ryan go from a nondescript guy to a douchey executive, and now a recovering cokehead living at home with his mom. Similarly, I think it was hilarious to watch Stanley be so happy with his new mistress/girlfriend at the wedding. Jim is not as funny now as he was 2-3 seasons ago, but that allows other guys to pick up the slack (Andy, Ryan, Kevin, etc), while the writers develop an actual story around Jim and Pam.
FWIW, I think that the most stale character for the past couple of seasons has been Angela. Her character has just become an excuse to lob potshots at everything she stands for, and I don't think I've found a single scene of hers amusing since the whole Dwight and Andy debacle.
However, I like how the show lets the characters evolve. To me, that's much funnier than seeing the same kinds of bits over and over again. That made Seinfeld kind of boring for me, even when I was in middle school. In the Office, some of the characters change, and that freshens up the show.
Of course, David Wallace, Creed, Meredith, Kelly, and the Nard Dog stay the same, but others have changed a lot over the past couple of years. I loved watching Ryan go from a nondescript guy to a douchey executive, and now a recovering cokehead living at home with his mom. Similarly, I think it was hilarious to watch Stanley be so happy with his new mistress/girlfriend at the wedding. Jim is not as funny now as he was 2-3 seasons ago, but that allows other guys to pick up the slack (Andy, Ryan, Kevin, etc), while the writers develop an actual story around Jim and Pam.
FWIW, I think that the most stale character for the past couple of seasons has been Angela. Her character has just become an excuse to lob potshots at everything she stands for, and I don't think I've found a single scene of hers amusing since the whole Dwight and Andy debacle.
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