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I read it again on the rant, "Wait until they (defense)....

Posted on 9/13/09 at 10:33 pm
Posted by mikedatyger
Orlandeaux, FL
Member since Jun 2005
4325 posts
Posted on 9/13/09 at 10:33 pm
... gets used to the Chavis' schemes. What exactly are the Chavis' schemes? Is it aggressive with man coverage and safety blitzes? is it a soft cover zone D? Right now I have not noticed the blitzes that we seemed to do in the past. The biggest thing that I noticed is the amount of space the DBs give on receivers. I haven't looked at the Vandy tape yet, but that is my impression.
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Posted by tie1on
Maryland
Member since Nov 2005
106 posts
Posted on 9/13/09 at 10:36 pm to
Totally Agree....DBs giving up way too much space on receivers
Posted by LakeViewLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
17730 posts
Posted on 9/13/09 at 10:39 pm to
Maybe because our DB's suck, and they need that much cushion? ( save PP )
This post was edited on 9/13/09 at 10:40 pm
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18844 posts
Posted on 9/13/09 at 10:42 pm to
Chavis pretty much runs a soft zone/keep everything in front of you/bend but don't break defense.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 9/13/09 at 10:42 pm to
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Maybe because our DB's suck, and they need that much cushion? ( save PP )


Yeah..... The talent isn't there.

It's not like we have 4 5 star DB's.
Posted by mikedatyger
Orlandeaux, FL
Member since Jun 2005
4325 posts
Posted on 9/13/09 at 10:45 pm to
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Maybe because our DB's suck


Another part of my concern. The DBs were highly recruited players. Not that it always rings true. but you invest in that perceived talent. If they are not good enough to hang man-to-man, then we need a different kind of DB. In 07 our corners played man and allowed safeties and LBs to blitz when the need arose. I think it was vital to the way the D played that year.
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40882 posts
Posted on 9/13/09 at 10:46 pm to
i dont buy what your selling. i saw our db's all over their recievers.
Posted by mikedatyger
Orlandeaux, FL
Member since Jun 2005
4325 posts
Posted on 9/13/09 at 10:49 pm to
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i saw our db's all over their recievers.


I have not looked at either replay in detail yet, but on first look, the DBs consistently were off the receivers 5-7 yards. Too much cushion. I will look at the replays tomorrow.
Posted by mikedatyger
Orlandeaux, FL
Member since Jun 2005
4325 posts
Posted on 9/13/09 at 10:52 pm to
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i dont buy what your selling


Not trying to sell it, just am not familiar with what Chavis is trying to do. I did not see the consistent DB play that I had hoped.
Posted by LSUGoo
Member since Jul 2009
2434 posts
Posted on 9/13/09 at 11:01 pm to
Our DBs played better than UW game...however, there are big plays to be had if their QB made better throws...it doesn't look as though we have settled on our back seven...players seem to be playing multiple positions. that is asking a bit much with a new scheme and some young talent
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/13/09 at 11:06 pm to
all yall really bitching about the defense the vandy game?
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
26225 posts
Posted on 9/13/09 at 11:06 pm to
He does give cushion but you realize they didn't even have 100 yards passing?
Posted by BBATiger
Member since Jun 2005
16702 posts
Posted on 9/13/09 at 11:07 pm to
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all yall really bitching about the defense the vandy game?


No shite. They gave up 7 points.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78159 posts
Posted on 9/13/09 at 11:10 pm to
Vandy Threw for 88 yards, and didn't go anywhere near PP. Also a lot of those yards came in the gaps that are just inherently there in a zone defense.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26663 posts
Posted on 9/13/09 at 11:14 pm to
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The biggest thing that I noticed is the amount of space the DBs give on receivers.


Like on their last drive when we were up 14 and their was a ton of cushion because *gasp* all we have to do is not give up a big play and win? Is that the cushion you're referring too?

Because we gave up 28 passing yards on that last meaningless drive. Before that, we gave up a grand total of, wait for it, sixty...






Sixty
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/13/09 at 11:17 pm to
it seemed like a pretty good scheme when we were knocking the crap out of them all game long
Posted by ValentiTiger
Prairieville
Member since Aug 2008
665 posts
Posted on 9/13/09 at 11:24 pm to
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all yall really bitching about the defense the vandy game?


we could win by 90, give up 26 total yards and somebody, somewhere is gonna bitch about LSU. Most of the time they start off by saying "ive been an LSU fan since 1927 when only 400 fans showed up to the game but......" LOL its become very funny to watch these people on here these days. 7 points and our D has to be "looked at" by fans cuz they didnt like what they saw. Wow
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
55111 posts
Posted on 9/13/09 at 11:31 pm to
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you realize they didn't even have 100 yards passing?

It wasn't our fault...
Posted by horndog
*edited by ADMIN
Member since Apr 2007
11834 posts
Posted on 9/13/09 at 11:32 pm to
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Yeah..... The talent isn't there.

It's not like we have 4 5 star DB's.


We need to concentrate on recruiting players that can hypnotize the opponent into laying down and giving up. We should never give up any yards on defense..., its an insult if we give up an inch.
Posted by ThePoo
Work
Member since Jan 2007
61129 posts
Posted on 9/13/09 at 11:33 pm to
i would imagine the players are told to keep everything in front of them to prevent the big play

and when they are in doubt of how tight to play, play a little further off to be safe (to prevent that big play)

i would also imagine that as they get use to the scheme and how game speed relates to those schemes they will get more comfortable with exactly how tight they should be playing and the gaps will get smaller

it does however take more than 2 games, it will take more than 3 games and probably more
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