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Posted on 4/3/09 at 6:48 pm
Posted by rogerlsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
966 posts
Posted on 4/3/09 at 6:48 pm
overview (my balances):
$2,400 on 19.99% card - 10,300 limit
$1,000 on 2.91% card - 2,000 limit

issue:
need to finance about 4 or 5 thousand on an engagement ring (about 10% APR)

possible action:
would it be wise to pay $1,400 on the 1st card then transfer the remaining $1,000 on it to the 2nd card?
this would save me some interest and financing the ring would be cheaper than continuing payments on 19.99%

thanks
This post was edited on 4/3/09 at 6:51 pm
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116697 posts
Posted on 4/3/09 at 7:07 pm to
Show her how much you really love her. Take out a loan for 10K and buy her a really nice ring.
Posted by rogerlsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
966 posts
Posted on 4/3/09 at 7:10 pm to
hey i'm not putting a price tag on it but there's only so much i can stomach
Posted by MileHigh
Most likely a mile high
Member since Jan 2004
7920 posts
Posted on 4/3/09 at 7:22 pm to
buy something you can pay cash for. Tell her she gets a nicer one when you are debt free and have the cash flow.

Terrible way to start out a marriage, in debt. I know someone that took 5 years to pay off the ring (12k). She left him after about a year and half. She kept the ring.
Posted by coloradoBengal
Member since Sep 2007
32608 posts
Posted on 4/3/09 at 7:45 pm to
Or you could just not buy into the bullshite that the DeBeers family created around the diamond market and get her something worthwhile... like a down payment on a house?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133552 posts
Posted on 4/3/09 at 7:46 pm to
quote:

Or you could just not buy into the bullshite that the DeBeers family created around the diamond market
Have you ever even met an adult female?
Posted by coloradoBengal
Member since Sep 2007
32608 posts
Posted on 4/3/09 at 7:52 pm to
quote:

Have you ever even met an adult female?


My wife loves her diamond ring, but it's still a ridiculous custom.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133552 posts
Posted on 4/3/09 at 7:55 pm to
quote:

My wife loves her diamond ring
So, you caved, too...huh?
Posted by coloradoBengal
Member since Sep 2007
32608 posts
Posted on 4/3/09 at 8:06 pm to
quote:

So, you caved, too...huh?
I did, but my wife worked for a jeweler at the time and we got a loose stone for like 1/3 of retail.

But still... she loves that ring, and I bought her diamond earrings later on (which she lost).

I'm done, and I wish I had never bought a diamond in my life.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133552 posts
Posted on 4/3/09 at 8:07 pm to
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15344 posts
Posted on 4/3/09 at 9:05 pm to
can't wait till JT sees this thread.
Posted by rogerlsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
966 posts
Posted on 4/3/09 at 9:14 pm to
well we'll make decent money for the house even without a big down payment... and yes it is necessary to get the diamond ring now. but it's good though because she picks it out and there are no future upgrades... 1 time deal.

either way i think i'll transfer some of that 19.99% credit card to the lower APR and use some savings to pay the rest. thanks for the comments
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 4/3/09 at 9:57 pm to
quote:

need to finance about 4 or 5 thousand on an engagement ring (about 10% APR)


Are you sure? Ask her. Her financial future would be bound up with yours too, after all. There are lots of women out there who'd be proud to wear a $50 band that didn't require a mortgage.
Posted by 40 Rouge
The Wasatch Back
Member since Feb 2009
2710 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 9:11 am to
19.99% is a high interest for a credit card. Usually it doesn't matter what the interest is if you pay the balances off in full monthly, but if you carry that wedding ring balance for a while, it'll hurt. Compounding interest is a b*tch, especially on 19%. I would avoid that at all costs.

If your credit score is strong, I would suggest just taking out a personal loan at a bank or with the jeweler if they have that option. A fixed term loan will have simple interest instead of compounding, and I am positive that the rate is lower than 19% on most banks' personal loans. You'll save so much more money in the long run with simple interest versus compounded interest.

If you get air miles or rewards points on your credit card, I would apply for a loan at a bank and get approved. If approved, buy the ring with the credit card to get your points, then close on the loan and pay off the balance on the credit card with the funds. You have to make the system work for you.
This post was edited on 4/4/09 at 9:15 am
Posted by Parliament
Member since Dec 2007
5787 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 9:45 am to
Have you seen the movie Deuce Bigelow: Male Jigolo? You know what to do.

But seriously, buy her a ring for, <$2,000. And plan a low-cost, intimate wedding. If she gets pissed, dump her gold digging arse. And get the ring back. But PIIHB first.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
45846 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

would it be wise to pay


It would be wise to pay cash for a ring you can afford.

Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
45846 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

Have you seen the movie Deuce Bigelow: Male Jigolo? You know what to do.

But seriously, buy her a ring for, <$2,000. And plan a low-cost, intimate wedding. If she gets pissed, dump her gold digging arse. And get the ring back. But PIIHB first.


Damn you know this site too well.

I think you wrapped up every single potential MT-OT-RANTT thought in 4 sentences!

Excellent!
Posted by LoyalTiger211
ds
Member since Dec 2008
223 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 1:41 pm to
i spent 300 buck for her ring. i was going for 3K but she says no way. my wife is VERY frugal and i thank my luck star to have her....
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
39886 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

$2,400 on 19.99% card - 10,300 limit

$1,000 on 2.91% card - 2,000 limit


Limits are irrelevant for this conversation.


quote:

need to finance about 4 or 5 thousand on an engagement ring (about 10% APR)


Need is a very strong word.

quote:

possible action: would it be wise to pay $1,400 on the 1st card then transfer the remaining $1,000 on it to the 2nd card?


Wise? Are you serious? You're playing with fire. Sure you can transfer your balance, but your credit card company can raise its interest rate at any time, especially if you happen to be late on a payment.

Here's an interesting concept. Save up the money and PAY CASH for the ring or pay off your debt first. But don't go into more debt to buy a stupid freaking ring. Why start your marriage already in debt? Most marriages end in divorce because of money issues. Reverse the trend.
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
39886 posts
Posted on 4/4/09 at 4:01 pm to
quote:

19.99% is a high interest for a credit card


quote:

If your credit score is strong



One would suspect that it isn't. Or, he's simply not a smart shopper when it comes to dealing with credit.

quote:

You have to make the system work for you


He's going to have a hard time making the system work for him. Chances are, he's had these balances for quite some time. Any "perks" that he has accumulated, more than likely, he's already paid for them.



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