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Any Treaty Involving the Strait of Hormuz Must Contemplate Iranian Sovereignty and Control

Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:55 am
Posted by RFK
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Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:55 am
“To know a nation’s geography is to know its foreign policy.”

-Napoleon

Any viable peace deal for the Strait of Hormuz must recognize Iranian control because the waterway’s narrow geography places the northern shipping approaches and key monitoring zones firmly within Iran’s territorial waters and along its extensive coastline, giving Tehran inherent strategic dominance that cannot be wished away.

Ignoring Iranian control in a peace framework would undermine long-term stability, as geography ensures that freedom of navigation ultimately depends on Tehran’s cooperation; realistic diplomacy must therefore formalize Iran’s role to prevent future disruptions to global energy flows.

Iran’s geography gives it a trump card over the Strait of Hormuz—whether we like it or not—because the narrow chokepoint hugs its coastline, placing critical shipping lanes under its direct oversight.


Posted by Indefatigable
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Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:56 am to
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Iran’s geography gives it a trump card over the Strait of Hormuz—whether we like it or not—because the narrow chokepoint hugs its coastline, placing critical shipping lanes under its direct oversight.

No it doesn’t. UAE and Oman have just as much of a territorial interest, and the narrowest passages/shipping lanes are in Omani territorial waters.
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Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:56 am to
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Any viable peace deal for the Strait of Hormuz must recognize Iranian control because the waterway’s narrow geography places the northern shipping approaches and key monitoring zones firmly within Iran’s territorial waters and along its extensive coastline, giving Tehran inherent strategic dominance that cannot be wished away.


Or they can GFT because they can't claim international waters as their own.
Posted by Mushroom1968
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Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:57 am to
OP just comes in here almost everyday throwing shite at the wall and making shite up.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:59 am to
To the victor goes the spoils - Napoleon
Posted by RFK
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Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:59 am to
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Or they can GFT because they can't claim international waters as their own.
None of the Strait of Hormuz is within international waters.

Under international law, primarily the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), coastal states may claim a territorial sea extending up to 12 nautical miles from their baselines.

The Strait of Hormuz is roughly 21 nautical miles wide at its narrowest point, with Iran on the northern shore and Oman on the southern shore.

Because this width is less than 24 nautical miles, the territorial seas of Iran and Oman overlap or fully cover the entire strait.
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 4/8/26 at 11:01 am to
It's funny to watch people side with terrorists to spite Donald Trump. They're absolutely broken.
Posted by RFK
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 4/8/26 at 11:02 am to
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OP just comes in here almost everyday throwing shite at the wall and making shite up.
Are we not debating political issues?

Or should every thread simply echo bashing Biden, Obama, RINOs, and other assorted “cucks”?

What is your stance on the territorial sea boundaries, and general applicability, of UNCLOS?
Posted by stout
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Posted on 4/8/26 at 11:06 am to
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It's funny to watch people side with terrorists to spite Donald Trump. They're absolutely broken.


The past 24 hours have shown how sick these people are

Posted by John somers
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Posted on 4/8/26 at 11:19 am to
You advocate for letting old deviants go into bathroom stalls with little girls. So we don't care what you say about anything else.
Posted by NimbleCat
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/8/26 at 11:21 am to
Iran?

Perhaps: “Woe to the Vanquished” is more in order.
Losers don’t dictate terms.
Posted by RFK
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 4/8/26 at 11:22 am to
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The past 24 hours have shown how sick these people are
Let’s say Canada wants to use the Mississippi River to transport goods to Mexico. Let’s assume they’re goods vital to Canada’s economy.

Should they be able to use the river free of charge?
Posted by weptiger
Georgia
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 4/8/26 at 11:24 am to
Why must they be the ones to control? The Strait touches more than just Iran.

I don’t understand this line of capitulant thinking other than your TDS. The Iranian people and their government have shouted death to America for 50 years. Also factor in the other Arab nations aligned with the U.S. and their expected lack of comfort with Iranian control.

Assume you were in favor of Obama giving Iran billions.
Posted by SloaneRanger
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Posted on 4/8/26 at 11:25 am to
“Control.” Kind of difficult for a country without a navy.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 4/8/26 at 11:26 am to
Is anyone here really surprised that OP would side with Americas enemies?
Posted by RFK
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Posted on 4/8/26 at 11:27 am to
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Why must they be the ones to control? The Strait touches more than just Iran.
I never said they have the only right to it.

But they control at least half of it under international law.
Posted by RFK
Mar-a-Lago
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 4/8/26 at 11:28 am to
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Is anyone here really surprised that OP would side with Americas enemies?
I side with the law, that’s all.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
22051 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 11:30 am to
There is not any salt water ocean not controlled by the US when it wants.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26256 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 11:30 am to
Qeshm should be come an American base to cut off Iranian attacks on shipping.

Posted by tarzana
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Member since Sep 2015
31806 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 11:34 am to
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Canada wants to use the Mississippi River to transport goods to Mexico

Improper analogy, as neither the Mississippi nor its navigable tributaries lie within Canadian territorial waters, nor does any part of the Gulf of Mexico
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