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Wargaming: What happens in the future, if we had not bombed Iran last year?
Posted on 4/7/26 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 4/7/26 at 1:52 pm
I'd like a logical, polite, debate on what is the likely scenario of what would happen in the future if we didn't conduct Operation Midnight Hammer and bomb Iran in June of 2025, which led to the current bombing of Iran. How does the scenario play out, long term?
Reports prior to June of 2025, was that Iran was enriching their Uranium to weapon's grade. They were processing their uranium in underground bunker's across the country (like the one we bombed). It is safe to say, and even admitted to by Iran pre-2025 that they were enriching uranium to weapons grade.
So with that established let's say we didn't bomb Iran. What happens 5, 10, 25 years down the road? I have my assumptions, that lead me to believe that stopping them now is better than trying to stop them when nuclear armed. However, i'd like to hear a rational and logical wargaming type scenario of what happens if we didn't go after their capabilities last year and now, and it can either agree or disagree with my own.
Reports prior to June of 2025, was that Iran was enriching their Uranium to weapon's grade. They were processing their uranium in underground bunker's across the country (like the one we bombed). It is safe to say, and even admitted to by Iran pre-2025 that they were enriching uranium to weapons grade.
So with that established let's say we didn't bomb Iran. What happens 5, 10, 25 years down the road? I have my assumptions, that lead me to believe that stopping them now is better than trying to stop them when nuclear armed. However, i'd like to hear a rational and logical wargaming type scenario of what happens if we didn't go after their capabilities last year and now, and it can either agree or disagree with my own.
This post was edited on 4/7/26 at 1:54 pm
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 1:53 pm to BugAC
The 52's just took off out of Fairford. They are getting bombed.
This post was edited on 4/7/26 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 4/7/26 at 1:54 pm to beebefootballfan
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The 52's just took off out of Fairford. They are getting bombed.
That was not the question.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 1:54 pm to BugAC
we did stop them in june of 2025. We are attacking now because another country asked us to. Which is good for the average American, they just dont see it yet.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 1:55 pm to BigGreenTiger
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Which is good for the average American, they just dont see it yet.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 1:56 pm to BugAC
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Wargaming: What happens in the future, if we didn't
Overthrow their government and install a puppet all because Britain wanted to keep their oil.
What would it look like today.
But to answer your question, the bombing last year was justified as per international agreements. UN inspector reports lead everyone to believe they were enriching.
If we did not do that, who the frick knows what would happen. Fortune telling is a hoax.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 1:56 pm to BigGreenTiger
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we did stop them in june of 2025. We are attacking now because another country asked us to. Which is good for the average American, they just dont see it yet.
Again, i'm not asking this. Please read through the entire post.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 1:56 pm to BugAC
Iran continues to build their drone army, builds nukes, and then no one can get close to them to stop them.
We should have done this years ago.
We should have done this years ago.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 1:57 pm to BigGreenTiger
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We are attacking now because another country asked us to.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 1:57 pm to BugAC
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I'd like a logical, polite, debate
You're in the wrong place for that
Posted on 4/7/26 at 1:57 pm to Powerman
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Powerman
deep down, you know this is all being run by Big Wind. drive up gas prices and people will turn to electric vehicles which will drive up the demand for wind mills. The real losers in this situation are the birds. Thank you for your sacrifice, you majestic animals.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 1:58 pm to dgnx6
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Iran continues to build their drone army, builds nukes, and then no one can get close to them to stop them.
We should have done this years ago.
I too, believe this would be the case. However, for those that disagree with the bombing, i'd like that scenario played out. If you don't agree with the bombing today, is there a scenario where a nuclear armed Iran does not lead to a much larger and deadlier outbreak?
Posted on 4/7/26 at 2:01 pm to BugAC
They hold the area and world hostage and support terrorist throughout their many arrangements without a nuclear weapon, what do you think would happen if they had nuclear arms? Once the have one it would be almost impossible to stop proliferation of them. Nothing worse than zealots with death wishes and nukes
Posted on 4/7/26 at 2:03 pm to Powerman
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Powerman
You disagree rather adamantly with Trump and his bombing of Iran. Can you play out the scenario in the OP? In your opinion, what happens in the future, if Trump never got involved with Iran?
Posted on 4/7/26 at 2:03 pm to BugAC
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I'd like a logical, polite, debate on what is the likely scenario of what would happen in the future if we didn't conduct Operation Midnight Hammer and bomb Iran in June of 2025, which led to the current bombing of Iran. How does the scenario play out, long term?
The same thing we all know would eventually happen, Iran uses it on Israel or America and ignites WW3. It’s not as if this is anything new here. They and NK have long presented the most dangerous threats to this country and instability in the world. It’s just now when something is finally done about the threat where people like to play convenient memory loss.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 2:05 pm to Mike da Tigah
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The same thing we all know would eventually happen, Iran uses it on Israel or America and ignites WW3. It’s not as if this is anything new here. They and NK have long presented the most dangerous threats to this country and instability in the world. It’s just now when something is finally done about the threat where people like to play convenient memory loss.
There are precisely 0 intelligence reports that suggest that Iran was an imminent threat to the U.S.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 2:09 pm to Powerman
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There are precisely 0 intelligence reports that suggest that Iran was an imminent threat to the U.S.
Ok, if you believe that, then play out that scenario. Do you believe Iran was not enriching their uranium? Do you understand how treaties work?
This post was edited on 4/7/26 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 4/7/26 at 2:10 pm to BugAC
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You disagree rather adamantly with Trump and his bombing of Iran. Can you play out the scenario in the OP? In your opinion, what happens in the future, if Trump never got involved with Iran?
I didn't have a problem with midnight hammer because it didn't get us sucked into a conflict that can potentially destabilize the region and global economy
I think we're causing more problems than we're solving at the moment
I would like nothing more than to be proven wrong
Posted on 4/7/26 at 2:15 pm to Powerman
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There are precisely 0 intelligence reports that suggest that Iran was an imminent threat to the U.S.
You weren’t even born when Iran took American hostages.
Iran has long been a threat to the United States, and through their proxies they’ve been attacking the US since they took that country over. There’s nothing earth shattering about us admitting that Iran is a threat to the US. They even tell you as much with their death to America the great Satan stuff every chance they get, and now you’re trying to tell me that a nuclear armed IRGC is not a threat to America?
Get serious.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 2:17 pm to Powerman
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I didn't have a problem with midnight hammer because it didn't get us sucked into a conflict that can potentially destabilize the region and global economy
A few things:
1) So you are content with bombing 1 nuclear site, but not removing the threat entirely if it means higher gas prices?
2) Did you think there was only 1 nuclear enrichment site in Iran?
3) Let's say Midnight Hammer was the end of the bombings, lets say in 10 years we are back in the exact same position or worse, Iran has fully capable nuclear weapons, will that decrease or increase the threat to the global economy?
I understand the trepidation to this war. However, at least in my and other's opinions, acting now is a much more desirable scenario than waiting for the Iranians to develop nukes and then reacting.
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