Where would Europe turn, if not the USA?

If we push Europe away they get closer to China and make China stronger.

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They would be a millstone around China's neck.

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frick then, they are already lost

Sadly, it feels like the French (out of the Western countries) are the only ones that wouldn't sell their souls to the highest bidder.

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Muslim rape gangs

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Yes, organized grooming gangs—groups systematically targeting, grooming, trafficking, and raping vulnerable young girls—exist in the UK and parts of Europe. They are well-documented through court convictions, victim testimonies, and official inquiries, with perpetrators disproportionately men of Pakistani Muslim or broader Muslim-majority migrant backgrounds.
UK
The 2014 Jay Report on Rotherham found at least 1,400 children (mostly White British girls) abused 1997–2013, predominantly by Pakistani-heritage men. Similar scandals hit Rochdale, Oxford, Telford, Newcastle, and others. A 2025 Baroness Casey audit confirmed local data from Greater Manchester, South Yorkshire, and West Yorkshire shows disproportionate Asian (mainly Pakistani) involvement in group-based child sexual exploitation. National data gaps persist (ethnicity unrecorded for ~2/3 of cases), but high-profile convictions repeatedly feature Pakistani Muslim networks. A new statutory Independent Inquiry into Grooming Gangs starts April 2026 to examine ethnicity, culture, and institutional failures.
Authorities often hesitated due to fears of "racism," delaying justice.
Europe
Post-2015 migration surges saw spikes:

Cologne NYE 2015–16: ~1,200 sexual assaults/robberies by groups of ~1,000 men, mostly Arab/North African asylum seekers.
Sweden: Studies show ~60%+ of rape convictions involve foreign-born or immigrant-background men (MENA/African over-represented), far above population share—especially in stranger/group cases. A 2025 study linked higher odds to immigrants arriving as teens/adults.

These reflect cultural clashes around gender norms, integration failures, and attitudes toward non-Muslim girls—not representative of all Muslims. Most child sex abuse involves other patterns (e.g., familial White offenders), but "street grooming" gangs show this ethnic skew. Better data collection and honest discussion of drivers are essential.

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Google the points here if you doubt or don't believe.

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Sadly, it feels like the French (out of the Western countries) are the only ones that wouldn't sell their souls to the highest bidder.

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I feel like they all would. But maybe France would finally stand up.

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Clip brings up a good point on trusting Europe with our intelligence & weapons systems.

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something this board has been talking about for a while now.

They can depend on their new overlords....Saudis and Qutaris. China will take their piece too. Europe will be begging us to help them out but they let to many of the enemy in they can get bent we will spill blood for them like we did 75 -100 yrs ago. They can fight them off with their own like their (and our) ancestors did.

Eastern Europe will probably line up with Russia.

We just need to find a way to strengthen the Monroe doctrine and isolate our the western hemisphere. Send people who dont belong here back out, and shut it down. Especially the non- Christians. We have everything we need in our hemisphere. Frick the rest at this point.

To add...we need to get Greenland and the close down the western hemisphere. Tell Canadian to get on track or we'll force them too.

China has been embarrassed by Trump when it comes to their military equipment. So their military isn't as intimidating other than their body count they will sacrifice.

In today's world, we'd probably partner up best with Russia, especially if somehow they are able to make/play nice with eastern Europe.

We'd just have to figure out the Japan/Taiwan/etc friendship and our Pacific territories when shitting down our hemisphere.

Obviously none of this will end up being the case, but atp making strong lines is needed.

The world and especially Europe ain't our granddaddy's Europe.

Because they have loved ones there who will be punished if they speak out. Europe is the canary in the coal mine.

I think Trump is the only person ruthless enough to pull the trigger on total rejection of any election that is not clean. They ALL damn well know that the Voter Rolls are dirty but all sat on their hands last time (Jan 6) and enough will again to make any honest Systemic reform possible. Sadly so. Like the Mullahs they will blow up the whole thing before giving up on their Democratic Fascist rule.

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I’ve got some European friends that fall on the conservative side of the aisle and they abhor Trump for making them pay their own way.

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Adults that whine because they have to pay their own way are nothing more than children...