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Live: Supreme Court hears Trump bid to limit birthright citizenship
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:22 am
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:22 am
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:28 am to loogaroo
Gorsuch is a brilliant dude. I think he's my favorite justice that Trump has nominated.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:31 am to Ingeniero
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Gorsuch is a brilliant dude. I think he's my favorite justice that Trump has nominated.
Clarence is my guy up there but if I were Trump I’d be telling those two to draw up a list of who they’d want to replace CT so he can step down during the Trump admin without risking Newsom flipping the court if he wins or letting the pundits pick another ACB.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:33 am to loogaroo
Not liking the fact that Roberts doesn't see the comparison between people here temporarily for legitimate reasons and illegal immigrants as a valid one. Doesn't mean he won't go the way I'd like him to on the issue as a whole, given much of the discussion is in regards to the way the text is interpreted and the original intent, but still not a great sign.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:34 am to tide06
Damn! Jackson is an idiot. 
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:36 am to loogaroo
I’ve found if you can view watching people like that as comedic relief it helps with cortisol and blood pressure levels.
You just have to think of it like watching a comedy rather than a drama.
You just have to think of it like watching a comedy rather than a drama.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:36 am to VolSquatch
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Not liking the fact that Roberts doesn't see the comparison between people here temporarily for legitimate reasons and illegal immigrants as a valid one.
That was aggravating. He's always such a little bitch.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:37 am to loogaroo
Jackson is horrible
Not liking what I am hearing from ACB and Roberts
Not liking what I am hearing from ACB and Roberts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:38 am to VolSquatch
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Not liking the fact that Roberts doesn't see the comparison between people here temporarily for legitimate reasons and illegal immigrants as a valid one. Doesn't mean he won't go the way I'd like him to on the issue as a whole, given much of the discussion is in regards to the way the text is interpreted and the original intent, but still not a great sign.
Sounds like Robert’s is going against this.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:39 am to BHTiger
ACB has African kids of course shes going against this.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:39 am to BHTiger
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Not liking what I am hearing from ACB and Roberts
No! Not at all.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:41 am to Ingeniero
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Gorsuch is a brilliant dude
He's hands down the best current Justice.
This has been a bloodbath for Trump so far. Alito seems to not be buying their argument, even if he got his political grandstanding in on the way.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:41 am to loogaroo
I think this could go 6-3 against Trump based on how the arguments are going.
ETA hell, 7-2 maybe. I went back and listened and lionward is right, even Alito didn't seem convinced
ETA hell, 7-2 maybe. I went back and listened and lionward is right, even Alito didn't seem convinced
This post was edited on 4/1/26 at 9:44 am
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:50 am to Ingeniero
Did the solicitor general just admit that under his current argument/logic, tribal Indians are subject to birthright citizenship (after first saying they weren’t).
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:51 am to Ingeniero
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hell, 7-2 maybe. I went back and listened and lionward is right, even Alito didn't seem convinced
Thomas has asked 2 questions, and neither was necessarily teeing up the SG to hit a home run.
I could see this going 9-0 after today, but anything 6-3 or more wouldn't surprise me.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:52 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Did the solicitor general just admit that under his current argument/logic, tribal Indians are subject to birthright citizenship (after first saying they weren’t).
He said "yes" then "he has to think about it." Not the answer to give to Gorsuch who has a long history in Indian Law.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:54 am to lionward2014
Kav's first question of the day coming in hot against the admin's position.
ETA: The rest of his questioning has been the first lifeline the admin has had today.
ETA: The rest of his questioning has been the first lifeline the admin has had today.
This post was edited on 4/1/26 at 9:59 am
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:55 am to Ingeniero
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I think this could go 6-3 against Trump based on how the arguments are going.
ETA hell, 7-2 maybe. I went back and listened and lionward is right, even Alito didn't seem convinced
I wouldn't give up yet. This is their job... Prod the issue to make sure the legal grounds work.
But this is (or at least should be) more about interpretation and intent of the text than it is any arguments that are made.
Not saying I feel great about it, it's obviously not a great sign. But let's just see what happens.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:55 am to Ingeniero
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I think this could go 6-3 against Trump based on how the arguments are going.
I predicted 7-2 a long time ago. I can't listen right now, but if it's as bad as y'all are saying 8-1 or 9-0 seems doable.
If Alito doesn't seem solid I doubt Thomas would ignore his favored statutory interpretation method AND pull a KBJ and be the lone dissent.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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If Alito doesn't seem solid
Alito started with a Scalia quote that the SG said was wrong. That's a summary of the day so far.
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