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Is the healthcare system in America bloated?

Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:47 am
Posted by Rankest
Alpine
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:47 am
I feel like it's going to get shocked in the future with reforms and layoffs
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:49 am to
AI going to shock it
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:50 am to
We can only hope.
Healthcare is massively bloated and overpaid. We could cut pay 30% and nothing would change m
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:54 am to
Tell that to my friend on workmans comp who can't get an MRI until April.
Posted by MRTigerFan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
6622 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:08 am to
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on workmans comp who can't get an MRI until April.

BS. I've been on workman's comp and you can choose your own doctor. If your friend really wants an MRI he/she can get one
Posted by UncleRuckus
Member since Feb 2013
9840 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:19 am to
Healthcare fraud puts fake Somali daycare fraud to shame.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73542 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:34 am to
Type 2 Diabetics are ruining our healthcare system

They clog up ERs and specialist schedules, and federal law prevents them from having to pay higher monthly premiums than non-type 2 diabetics
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
18994 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:35 am to
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Tell that to my friend on workmans comp who can't get an MRI until April.


I don’t think I’ve ever waited for medical care ever in my life. Not even once. This would be news to me.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78942 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:37 am to
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Tell that to my friend on workmans comp who can't get an MRI until April.
I'd tell him he's full of shite. But that doesn't mean I agree with the OP.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
10749 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 3:45 am to
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We can only hope. Healthcare is massively bloated and overpaid. We could cut pay 30% and nothing would change m


If you are talking about folks on the insurance or management side, sure. If you are talking about front line workers, GTF. They should be paid double for having to deal with the people they see on a daily basis
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56885 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 4:10 am to
So long as this country uses a fee for service payment system which is currently the most expensive system in the world (In 2023, the U.S. spent $13,432 per person, over $3,700 more than the next highest nation (Switzerland) the U.S. STILL has lower life expectancy and higher rates of chronic diseases compared to peer countries.

In short, yes, it's extremely bloated with services people don't need, don't produce better health outcomes, don't make them any healthier in the short term or long term and it's covering people who don't take care of themselves in the first place. Not only are we completing more services that don't lead to improved health outcomes, the cost for those services that don't work are more expensive than an country in the world.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11394 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 4:14 am to
Healthcare systems in America are awful because of two groups of people:

Illegal Immigrants who use hospital emergency rooms as their primary care provider and Obese diabetics who clog up the system with an absurd amount of visits, testing, and medications they consume. Remove those two groups and healthcare costs in America would plummet.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
10749 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 4:33 am to
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In short, yes, it's extremely bloated with services people don't need, don't produce better health outcomes, don't make them any healthier in the short term or long term and it's covering people who don't take care of themselves in the first place. Not only are we completing more services that don't lead to improved health outcomes, the cost for those services that don't work are more expensive than an country in the world


Most people who don't take care of themselves don't have insurance to begin with and are unable to afford whatever they need done.

Our healthcare system is broken because we do not practice preventive healthcare in this country. People wait until they are sick or have something wrong to start seeing a doctor regularly. By the time symptoms start showing up, you end up getting trapped into the healthcare system.

Part of it is people are lazy and part of it is insurance providers not paying for services until you are sick/meet requirements


Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56885 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 4:44 am to
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Most people who don't take care of themselves don't have insurance to begin with and are unable to afford whatever they need done


Thats not true at all. Over 80% of the people in this country with at least one chronic condition have healthcar coverage.

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part of it is insurance providers not paying for services until you are sick/meet requirements


Again, completely false. Every single healthcare insurance carrier in this country provides preventative care at zero cost to the plan member / patient. Many people don't know it, don't know many of their benefits to begin with, don't know what their plan covers in the first place but those preventative measures are absolutely there and covered. People just don't use them enough.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
10749 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 4:54 am to
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Again, completely false. Every single healthcare insurance carrier in this country provides preventative care at zero cost to the plan member / patient. Many people don't know it, don't know many of their benefits to begin with, don't know what their plan covers in the first place but those preventative measures are absolutely there and covered. People just don't use them enough.


Try to get a colonoscopy covered before age 40.

Or an EKG done

Or a CT


I can go on and list things you can't just walk in and have done and covered.

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Thats not true at all. Over 80% of the people in this country with at least one chronic condition have healthcar coverage.


Link to stats?
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24331 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 4:58 am to
Depends on where you look. Full tax paying corporation hospitals are usually ran very efficiently. The so called "not for profit" hospitals usually have twice the staff needed and half that staff doesn't work. And they can disregard medical necessity laws.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56885 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 5:00 am to
EKGs and CTs are not preventative and colonoscopies are absolutely covered for people under 40 with a family history, symptoms, genetic syndromes, etc.

Wanting something done without any indications it's needed doesn't make it preventative.

quote:

I can go on and list things you can't just walk in and have done and covered.


Just because you want something done without a providers orders doesn't make it preventative. Doesn't matter if its Radiation, a mammogram or Xofluza.
This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 5:02 am
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
10749 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 5:05 am to
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EKGs and CTs are not preventative and colonoscopies are absolutely covered for people under 40 with a family history, symptoms, genetic syndromes, etc. Wanting something done without any indications it's needed doesn't make it preventative. quote: I can go on and list things you can't just walk in and have done and covered. Just because you want something done without a providers orders doesn't make it preventative. Doesn't matter if its Radiation, a mammogram or Xofluza.


Bull shite

Have an Aunt that just paid to have a whole body CT scan done and caught early stage cancer.

The thinking that those things aren't preventative is why we have such poor outcomes

ETA: The rise of colon cancer in young people have more than justify lowering the screening age for colonoscopies with or without family. history. But again, most insurers have your point of view and thus why we have such poor outcomes
This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 5:07 am
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56885 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 5:10 am to


They're generally diagnostic, not preventative. An EKG can be preventative for for individuals with high blood pressure, diabetes, or a family history of heart disease. Low-dose CT scans can be preventative and used for early detection of lung nodules in high-risk smokers and assessing plaque build-up in coronary and both ate covered by health insurance carrier when ordered by a a physician.

That being said, they are generally diagnostic and just because you can't walk in and request one that's covered and paid for by someone else doesn't mean they aren't covered.

It's ridiculous to think that healthcare costs in this country would reduce if anyone could just walk into a hospital or outpatient testing facility and request diagnostic tests without seeing a provider who actually ordered a test.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
10749 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 5:28 am to
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They're generally diagnostic, not preventative


You have been led to believe this by insurance.

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It's ridiculous to think that healthcare costs in this country would reduce if anyone could just walk into a hospital or outpatient testing facility and request diagnostic tests without seeing a provider who actually ordered a test


No, but if we incorporated more screenings/scans than just here is your yearly BMP/CBC/Lipid panel blood draw, they absolutely would.

This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 5:30 am
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