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re: Is the healthcare system in America bloated?

Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:20 am to
Posted by TigahJay
New Orleans
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:20 am to
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they learn all electronic stuff & how to use computers. Most of this is how to treat symptoms and not actually how to heal a person


So your problem is that they don’t use paper charts anymore?

Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:21 am to
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they learn all electronic stuff & how to use computers. Most of this is how to treat symptoms and not actually how to heal a person
What are you talking about?

Young physicians are much better trained to not just throw medicine at a patient

Look at the rate at which they prescribe statins in such compared to older doctors
This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 9:22 am
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:22 am to
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So your problem is that they don’t use paper charts anymore?
no - my problem is they treat symptoms, not cure

They’re too busy learning systems instead of healthcare
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:22 am to
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no - my problem is they treat symptoms, not cure They’re too busy learning systems instead of healthcare
You can’t be more wrong
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:27 am to
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You can’t be more wrong
I’m not but you go ahead and believe what you want
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
20248 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:28 am to
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Subsidizing their insurance would just be robbing Peter to pay Paul. Costs would be moved from healthcare to taxes.

This is what people who want a single payer system don’t understand. Sure you can have “free” healthcare, your taxes are going to cover that though. There are some provinces in Canada that have provincial tax rates of 20%, on top of their federal taxes.


If I had a magic wand, I'd do a few things related to healthcare amongst lower socioeconomic groups:

1. Provide GLP-1 generics through Medicaid and encourage their usage amongst overweight and diabetics.

2. Completely change what people can buy with food stamps. Luckily this is underway in several states.

3. Provide incentives for those on welfare/medicaid to stop procreating. Not sure how to accomplish it, but the poor and unhealhy procreate at a much more rapid pace than the rest of society. Maybe $10,000 one time payments to men on welfare to get vasectomies. I don't know.

4. Provide incentives for those on welfare/medicaid with children to get married. They are playing the "single parent" issue to game the system even if there is a man present in the child's lives.

This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 9:29 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:32 am to
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I’m not but you go ahead and believe what you want
I mean you are factually wrong. Younger physicians are doing a much much better job of not just throwing medication at a patient

That’s actually measured you know?
This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 9:33 am
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:34 am to
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Younger physicians are doing a much much better job of not just throwing medication at a patient
not in Louisiana
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That’s actually measured you know?
yes, I used to do research on that stuff
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19568 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:34 am to
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Tell that to my friend on workmans comp who can't get an MRI until April.


My fiancée slipped on some black ice at work last week, gotten several x-rays for her arm, head, shoulder, and hip. MRI scheduled for next week on her wrist and elbow. Worker's comp has been very decent so far.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:34 am to
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yes, I used to do research on that stuff
No you didn’t
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:39 am to
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You can’t be more wrong

She probably wants more detailed guidance from Drs to improve patients lifestyles

One of the problems with this is a lot unhealthy Americans who make up a substantial portion of these patients are very hard to convince
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:39 am to
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No you didn’t
it was mostly research on clinical trials but pharmaceutical use and function was always considered when gathering information
Posted by Defenseiskey
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2010
2150 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:39 am to
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Yeah the healthcare system in this country is fricked because of illegal immigrants. Holy shite what an idiotic take. Obese you’d have a point but illegal immigrants?! Boomers getting access to Facebook was a huge mistake. Zuckerberg has burned a hole in your brain brother




You're not wrong, but 80% of the problem is caused by lazy entitled FAT Americans. Illegals are only a drop in the bucket.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:40 am to
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Is the healthcare system in America bloated?
clown question
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111439 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:41 am to
Older physicians are much more likely to go to pharmaceuticals and its multi faceted

1. The pharma boom of the 80s 90s happened when they were starting out
2. Less emphasis during school of lifestyle medicine
3. Just burn out of seeing patients being lazy and not caring


You can be frustrated as a whole doctors “treat the symptoms” , but that’s far more of an issue as physicians age.
Posted by MRTigerFan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
6977 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:45 am to
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Not in my state.

The rules vary by state.


Damn that sux
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:45 am to
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EKGs and CTs are not preventative and colonoscopies are absolutely covered for people under 40 with a family history, symptoms, genetic syndromes, etc.


They didn’t want to cover my mammogram before the age of 40 despite having both my Mother (who died of it) and Grandmother having breast cancer. I had to fight for it and my OB/GYN basically had to write a letter for it.

Then they didn’t want to cover my breast biopsy when something did come up on the mammogram (at 43) and I had to fight for it.

I shouldn’t have had to make multiple appeals to get those things covered.
Posted by TigahJay
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2015
11393 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:45 am to
How much time in medical school do you think is dedicated to learning “computer stuff” and billing? I’ll give you a hint it’s basically zero.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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60605 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:49 am to
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computer stuff” and billing?
yes I know none is dedicated to billing - why should medical students have to study that?

And so much of the information is virtual - you can’t say there is no computer stuff.
Posted by TigahJay
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2015
11393 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:54 am to
Then what “systems” are you talking about? You think that the problem with medical education is that they use computers instead of paper charts and lectures aren’t done on a chalkboard? Nothing you are blabbering about makes any sense.
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