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Auto websites don’t spend much time talking about the used EV market for some reason
Posted on 2/10/26 at 9:14 am
Posted on 2/10/26 at 9:14 am
Old, used EV models hold their value and are in great demand by consumers, right?
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 9:15 am to weagle1999
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Old, used EV models hold their value and are in great demand by consumers, right?
Yep, in the same way that aged milk is.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 9:15 am to weagle1999
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Old, used EV models hold their value and are in great demand by consumers, right?
do you wanna post an example or 2?
and maybe post a comparative gas alternative vehicle?
Posted on 2/10/26 at 9:20 am to weagle1999
No one wants a used ev for fear of battery cost
Posted on 2/10/26 at 9:26 am to kywildcatfanone
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No one wants a used ev for fear of battery cost
even so,if you're getting 2-3 yrs out of current vehicle set up, replace batteries, you're good for at least another 8 or so right? With the value of the depreciation you got on vehicle and not paying gas for 10 years, you can't be coming out too bad...?
Posted on 2/10/26 at 9:40 am to kywildcatfanone
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No one wants a used ev for fear of battery cost
I've never understood this fear because it's so easy to pull battery health in a PPI.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 10:30 am to weagle1999
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used EV models hold their value
Like a fart in a sand storm...
Posted on 2/10/26 at 10:37 am to Chad504boy
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do you wanna post an example or 2?
and maybe post a comparative gas alternative vehicle
Apparently not. Just woke up and wanted to bitch and moan about something that doesnt affect him
Posted on 2/10/26 at 10:40 am to Chad504boy
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even so,if you're getting 2-3 yrs out of current vehicle set up, replace batteries, you're good for at least another 8 or so right? With the value of the depreciation you got on vehicle and not paying gas for 10 years, you can't be coming out too bad...?
Battery repair market is expanding to keep pace with demand. It is probably a good business for a guy wanting to get into the scene. Not a ton of competition and a relatively good customer base right now.
The learning curve does seem above normal for a regular mechanic.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 10:41 am to weagle1999
The ones I read mention EV depreciation frequently.
And, it's not really about battery degradation, which I previously assumed would be the biggest issue.
Many EV owners return to ICE vehicles, and until charging issues are addressed, I think this will continue.
And, it's not really about battery degradation, which I previously assumed would be the biggest issue.
Many EV owners return to ICE vehicles, and until charging issues are addressed, I think this will continue.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 10:44 am to weagle1999
A study was mentioned yesterday on TechSpot which proves fast charging ages the batteries twice as fast.
This is based on GeoTab data, which is used for fleet management, which I've helped roll out before.
This is based on GeoTab data, which is used for fleet management, which I've helped roll out before.
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The firm analyzed data from more than 22,700 vehicles across 21 models and found a striking pattern: batteries subjected to frequent charging sessions above 100 kilowatts degraded at roughly twice the rate of those primarily using lower-power options such as Level 2 chargers.
While the typical EV experiences about 2.3 percent capacity loss per year, vehicles that rely heavily on ultra-fast DC charging show up to 2.5 percent annual degradation. The same models, when fast-charged sparingly, degraded at a rate closer to 1.5 percent per year. The threshold appears when more than 12 percent of total charging sessions occur at those high-power stations.
The 100 kW figure is significant because it marks the point at which charging ceases to be merely "fast" and becomes electrochemically aggressive
Posted on 2/10/26 at 10:47 am to fightin tigers
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The learning curve does seem above normal for a regular mechanic.
i think you are underestimating the safety issues involved etc. dealerships have some extreme safety measures when dealing with ev's.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 10:53 am to Chad504boy
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i think you are underestimating the safety issues involved etc. dealerships have some extreme safety measures when dealing with ev's
I don't doubt that. I might have not typed that properly, an EV mechanic learning curve is higher than a regular mechanic. The tech has to be half mechanic and half electrician. Not to mention diagnosing parts that aren't visually damaged or broken.
A lot of these guys starting electric shops are crowdsourcing the knowledge. The learning for an older mechanic seems harder to do in the EV sector than a traditional mechanic.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 10:55 am to LemmyLives
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A study was mentioned yesterday on TechSpot which proves fast charging ages the batteries twice as fast.
This has been known for a while. We were doing degradation studies with Tesla 5 years ago on this. The harder you work the storage unit (charge or discharge) the worse they degrade.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 10:58 am to billjamin
How is that going to work out on a trip?
I guess if you don't fast charge frequently, it may be OK?
I guess if you don't fast charge frequently, it may be OK?
Posted on 2/10/26 at 11:00 am to N2cars
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Many EV owners return to ICE vehicles, and until charging issues are addressed, I think this will continue.
There's also many cannot be retrofitted to accommodate newer battery technology (which exacerbates age), they're also approaching battery replacement and it's incidental recycling cost, the ever diminishing range of older batteries, and they never actually got the promised results when brand new. Plus the real live draw backs of winter usage, how much a load of people affects range, and some are now known to have frustrating recharging times.
That's a lot to throw in to paragraph for each and every make, model and brand...when you're also considering which trim, how many cylinders, type drive, etc.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 11:06 am to N2cars
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How is that going to work out on a trip?
I guess if you don't fast charge frequently, it may be OK?
It's a frequency issue. If you rely only on level 3 charging mostly, you're going to see the battery degrade faster and a slightly higher failure rate. Think .2% increased unit failure across a large fleet.
If you're mostly level 1 or 2 and just level 3 when you travel it's not really worth mentioning unless you travel weekly.
Typically in privately owned vehicles (exclude the rental cars), people level 3 charge less than 3% of the time. And that data has a lot to dive into because there are over 1/3 that have only ever level 3 charges 0-5 times in their entire life.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 11:09 am to Chad504boy
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do you wanna post an example or 2?
Of EV models that hold their value? I am admittedly ignorant on specifics, just making assumptions based on glowing articles and internet commentary.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 11:10 am to awestruck
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they're also approaching battery replacement
mostly for the oldest Teslas that had early gen architecture and BMS. The newer ones are performing much better.
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it's incidental recycling cost
I don't think we're going to see large scale recycling. I think repurposing of the degraded unit into utility scale storage and paying the salvage value to the consumer to help cover the cost of the new battery is much more probably and economically efficient.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 11:11 am to N2cars
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How is that going to work out on a trip? I guess if you don't fast charge frequently, it may be OK?
A two car household shouldn’t have 2 EV only cars. EV’s may be superior to ICE vehicles as an around town, every day driver where you only travel about 50 miles and recharge it at home every night.
However, if you anticipate driving it over the entire range of the battery in a single day or towing anything, ICE vehicles are still superior.
EV’s are good options for a lot of people if they can afford them up front, but they aren’t an answer to every need.
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