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Philadelphia - Bar raises age to 25 due to too many high quality fake ID's

Posted on 2/9/26 at 11:57 am
Posted by Shexter
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Posted on 2/9/26 at 11:57 am
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PHILADELPHIA -- A longtime Philadelphia bar has temporarily raised its entry age to 25 and older after an apparent surge in college-age patrons and increasingly sophisticated fake IDs.

Dirty Frank's co-owner Jody Sweitzer said she believed social media contributed to a wave of younger crowds showing up at the Center City bar, prompting the staff to become more vigilant.

But she said the tipping point came when a 24-year-old "Founding Father" attempted to get in. The fake Pennsylvania ID featured a photo of Ben Franklin, listed his age as 24, and gave the Liberty Bell as his address.


https://abc7.com/post/dirty-franks-center-city-philadelphia-temporarily-raises-age-25-due-surge-fake-ids-including-founding-father/18553892/



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Sweitzer said that was when she decided the bar had to act, and two weeks ago, Dirty Frank's implemented a temporary rule requiring patrons to be at least 25 to enter.

"Thank you to whoever brought this in. We confiscated it, obviously, and that's the day I'm like, 'We're done,'" Sweitzer said, holding up the confiscated fake ID.

She said the bar had seen an influx of younger crowds arriving in large groups.

"I guess it was with the ChatGPT, and TikTok and everything, so we started getting swarms of kids, 20 at a time, 30 at a time, and it was so odd," she said. "Everybody was scanning, the UV lights were working, so all the holograms were correct, but it just seemed really off," she added.

Sweitzer said the IDs were still scanning as valid and passing security measures but other behavioral concerns raised alarms, including vaping inside, some patrons bringing their own drinks, and instances of disrespectful conduct.


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The Ben Franklin incident, she said, underscored the need for immediate action.

"I have to preserve the bar, I have to preserve my license," she said.

Regular customers said they'd noticed changes in the atmosphere.

"They don't know how to drink. They drink way too much. They throw up on the floor, they yell, they scream," said Jean Merritt of South Philadelphia.

Merritt went on to say, "I was not surprised that the kids are trying to play tricks, but I am so glad they changed the age."


Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
20660 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 12:00 pm to
That's why McLovin changed his age to 25. 21 would be too obvious!
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
19360 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 12:00 pm to
They'd never do this at Paddy's Pub
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 2/9/26 at 12:05 pm to
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2017
14060 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 12:06 pm to
I see no issue with this. Her bar, her rules.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/9/26 at 12:13 pm to

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Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
8560 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 12:13 pm to
FWIW - been there. good dive bar for the 25 and up crowd. Neighbor place the local college students have honed in on.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
121020 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 1:24 pm to
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hat's why McLovin changed his age to 25. 21 would be too obvious!


Dude was ahead of things. People laughed at him for wanting to go with the most popular name in the word so he ended up with McLovin
Posted by TygerLyfe
Member since May 2023
3316 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 2:50 pm to
There are no fake IDs on stolen land
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4654 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 3:21 pm to
The ID literally says "Fakes DMV" as their name. If someone was dumb enough to try that ID they have trouble breathing. I'm calling this BS
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
6553 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 3:22 pm to
Didn't read it all but are 25yo and older ID's harder to fake in some way?
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
19692 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 3:27 pm to
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Didn't read it all but are 25yo and older ID's harder to fake in some way?


An 18 year old trying to look 3 years older is probably easier than an 18 year old trying to look 7 years older.
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
6553 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 3:30 pm to
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An 18 year old trying to look 3 years older is probably easier than an 18 year old trying to look 7 years older.
Ah yes. Thanks. I was thinking more along the lines of fudging the numbers.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
33024 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 4:57 pm to
Meanwhile, Japan is not letting in people in bars who are over 40
Posted by JoeyP239
Member since Nov 2025
445 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 4:59 pm to
What’s stopping people from generating fakes at 25?

I bet this is a bar that is frequented by the older 50 crowd that simply doesn’t want anyone younger than 30 in it. And this bar, probably thinks it will get more business by catering to an older crowd with more money
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
10862 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 5:21 pm to
To me, this is no different than discriminating against sex or race. I’ve never been in favor of businesses being able to restrict ages (as long as they are of age legally) if they cannot restrict white people or black people. It makes no sense to me.

That being said, I believe a business should have freedom (within reason) and I think all these discrimination laws should be changed. If a business wants to serve only X people, so be it. It’s stupid for business if you’re turning away money, but they should have the freedom to do it.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
121020 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 6:32 pm to
I know what's something, but what exactly is that in reference to? Didn't someone say something about a stolen island?
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
32228 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:13 pm to


Posted by Rick9Plus
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2020
2455 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:04 pm to
I’ve passed by bars in north BR with minimum ages of 26 or 28 painted on the outside walls. Can’t say as i blame them.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
82877 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:11 pm to
Commonly referred to as "grown" clubs/lounges. Grown folks, Grown and Sexy, etc.
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