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Is a Four-Year Degree Worth It?

Posted on 2/4/26 at 6:08 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 2/4/26 at 6:08 am
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Is a Four-Year Degree Worth It?
If colleges and universities want families to answer ‘yes,’ they’ll need to make some changes on campus.

By Sian Leah Beilock, President of Dartmouth College
Jan. 25, 2026 4:35 pm ET


Families across the U.S. are questioning whether a four-year degree is worth it. Student debt has soared. Recent graduates are struggling in a rapidly changing job market. Colleges can also be too ideological: On many campuses, students are exposed to a limited range of perspectives, signaling to them what rather than how to think.

American higher education has a trust problem. We shouldn’t pretend otherwise, and it won’t solve itself. In 2026 I’d like to see colleges and universities across the country take steps to restore trust. As president of Dartmouth College, I’m committed to this goal, and how to restore public confidence in higher education animates conversations among my presidential peers.
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I see five areas where we can build back trust.

First, make college affordable.

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Posted by lshuge
Member since Sep 2017
931 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 6:14 am to
Depends on the degree. Most degrees today are useless.
Posted by dukeg7213
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2023
6216 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 6:15 am to
Yes
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/4/26 at 6:20 am to
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Depends on the degree. Most degrees today are useless.


While I agree with this, I am one of those who earned a degree in a field and then entered into a different field after college. I would not have my very well paid job now if it weren’t for obtaining my degree

Again, I agree with this notion as a whole, but I do also believe having your degree shows potential employers that you have it in you to finish what you started. Which is why the bachelors degree requirement exists and weeds out those that aren’t committed to seeing things through
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6764 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 6:22 am to
This seems to be focused on non technical degrees at elite institutions.

Cant imagine hiring a Dartmouth graduate in Women’s, Gender, & Sexuality Studies... ever.

Or for that fact, anything in their interdisciplinary majors.

Those little meat bags of entitlement must not be getting jobs...
Posted by A10Rebel
Colorado
Member since Nov 2018
856 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 6:22 am to
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Depends on the degree. Most degrees today are useless.


I agree with this and would add that it's an absolute rip off. What is charged versus what you make out the gate, is criminal.
Posted by Swamp Angel
West Georgia Chicken Farm Territory
Member since Jul 2004
9839 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 6:23 am to
I'll second the sentiment of lshuge. The value of a college degree is highly dependent upon what course of study that degree entails. A degree in architecture, engineering, pre-med/med, veterinary sciences, computer science, etc. are all very much worth the effort and financial investment. A degree in political science, recreation, or the all encompassing degree for people who just want to "college experience" known as General Studies are generally not worth the time.

To be brief: A Bachelor of Science degree beats out a Bachelor of the Arts degree every single time. Unless you plan to teach or go in to the legal profession, a BA isn't worth much more than the parchment it's printed on.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
18924 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 6:23 am to
Fortunately, my kids are all gainfully employed and degreed. However, if I had it to do over again...I would push them into plumbing, HVAC or welding.
The demand in these fields is overwhelming.

If you can get the training, apprenticeship and parlay into your own business, the world will be your oyster.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72108 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 6:23 am to
Agree that the ROI for most is asinine

The student loan scam is why this question is even being asked
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
28519 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 6:32 am to
My son just graduated high school, I preached and preached to him about college but he showed no interest in it so I told him to find a job.

He's making $17.00 an hour + monthly bonus so 40K a year.

Companies can't get young people to work for less "amazing".


Good thing, it got him out of my pocket.

Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
44509 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 6:34 am to
Yes, but the numbers wouldn’t keep the universities operating.
Posted by SoCal Cal
Member since Jan 2026
8 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 6:35 am to
Most degrees are useless.
This is why you have a nation full of baristas with 100k in student debt.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
94066 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 6:36 am to
My underwater basketweaving degree has come in use personally. But engineering or physics degrees are worthless.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20693 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 6:38 am to
I agree that colleges need to make some changes. They keep trying to balance being a for-profit organization, an institution of research and higher learning, and a white collar job training program.

They need to pick one and run with it. If it’s about jobs and ROI? Cut the intellectual programs. Research and higher ed? Lower costs and only accept those who can engage in higher forms of academic and intellectual inquiry. Fail those that can’t. For profit? Switch to all online so education can be cheap and people can work while they earn a degree.

It’s absolutely not worth spending $100k-$200k to earn a degree that gets you no closer to a job than a high school diploma. Most degrees—even some of the STEM ones—will never lead to high salaries without some form of grad school or luck.
Posted by lake2280
Public intellectual
Member since Nov 2012
4456 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 6:39 am to
For girls I believe it’s worth it more than boys. Doing what I do with no college in 4 years anyone that wants it can be making a 100k. We are looking for these people everyday. This is a Monday through Friday job with a company truck. Took me 2.5 years to get there starting over in a career.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
136473 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 6:44 am to
quote:

Depends on the degree. Most degrees today are useless.
Maybe not most, but far too many. Which speaks to the
OP's contention
quote:

Institutions should be held accountable for student outcomes: Are our graduates getting jobs, pursuing meaningful work, and contributing to their communities?
Posted by Demonbengal
Ruston
Member since May 2015
5272 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 6:46 am to
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My son just graduated high school, I preached and preached to him about college but he showed no interest in it so I told him to find a job.


I’ve reached the point where I’m highly concerned about my daughter marrying a guy with a mountain of student loan debt. I’d be somewhat relieved if she ends up with a guy doing a blue collar trade. I feel those jobs have less to worry about as we enter the AI generation.
Posted by Root_User
Member since Dec 2025
151 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 6:48 am to
They forgot to mention that anything you ever need or want to learn can be done from a device in your pocket. The entire school model is antiquated.
Posted by Judnnc
Member since Jun 2025
403 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 6:49 am to
dont have one and make six figures. Just gotta work harder. Get in gov't and it shouldn't matter as much.
Posted by NASA_ISS_Tiger
Huntsville, Al via Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2005
8219 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 6:50 am to
I have a 4 year BSEE. Would I recommend anyone pay what colleges are charging today for the same degree? Hell NO. Sadly there isn't much that has changed in the degree program from when I got my BSEE in 1996 to today, but the cost has skyrocketed. I got out of school with $15K in student loan debt and was able to pay it off. Took a lot longer than what they sell to you, but I got it done. Today's student loan debt for the same degree at the same college would be > $10K per year. That's more than $50K for the same degree (if you can get a BSEE and work 40 hours a week in 4 years, I commend you, but it took my 5 so I base my calculations off that). That's close to 4x for the SAME DEGREE. Yeah starting salaries might be more, but so is housing, food, insurance, utilities etc. The Risk vs Reward isn't there. Go to a junior college or Vocational Tech school and keep your expenses down and start out at the same salary! Welders, mechanics, and electricians make damn good money and don't have the overhead of student loans breathing down their necks. Plus those schools help students find jobs better than some colleges do.
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